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<blockquote data-quote="YlJacket" data-source="post: 693844" data-attributes="member: 2784"><p>I’ll chime back in on this thread. I do think Moses will start next year as the “5” as I don’t expect a freshman big to come in and start except in some rare cases. Usually need time to adjust to the college game unless they are really elite. Could be wrong – we’ll see. And while I do think Moses has the capability to work offensively in the modified Princeton set we run – he has decent hands and most importantly can make the 15-18 foot shot from the foul line area – I don’t think we should or will go back to it simply because Banks graduates. The strength of our offense this year and next is our guards – Jose and DeVoe – so you run an offense tailored to them. And that is more the high pick and roll type of set. Though others would work as well – horn set, etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The issue we have right now with the high pick and roll set we run is that we have a strong propensity to disintegrate into one pick and drive offense with no ball movement or anything other than Jose or at times DeVoe trying to make a play against a set D. We start out games with passing and movement prior to a high screen but by halfway through the first half Jose brings it down, calls for a pick and then goes to the matt trying to get into the paint off that one screen. I play a game counting the number of times the ball reverses sides and this number gets woefully small when we go into our patented offensive blackouts. I really do believe the outlandish number of turnovers we have is directly related to the fact we don’t move the ball or the defense and thus we are driving against set defenses a lot more than we should. No wonder we turn the ball over like we do.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A high pick is simply a way to initiate an offense – shouldn’t be seen as “an offense”. The next iteration for us on offense is to get comfortable and confident in ball movement – and get to a point where we we know how to get defenses moving and can get the ball to different players in their comfort spot where they can do something with it. If Moses is at the 5 we can do that with a true 4 out system – if Moses is at the 4 then we need to look at how Mich State runs their 2 bigs or even how Mich did it under Belein and use him within 18 feet. Regardless of where Moses plays next year we need to be looking at how we move the ball and how we structure movement off the ball. Couple of off ball screens for DeVoe and/or Moore/Sjolund/Price would be a neat new twist to see. </p><p></p><p>As an aside, any roster with Banks and to a lesser extent Moses ain't structured to play positionless basketball. Banks ain't switching onto guards on the perimeter except in emergencies and putting him in any perimeter position on offense is a disaster. VT can come close to doing this as they don't have any true 5's. Duke could do it with Zion as a small ball center and run a 5 out offense. Any idea we can play true positionless BB is misguided. I would love to see us be more interchangeable with the 1-3 slots but that is about all we can do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="YlJacket, post: 693844, member: 2784"] I’ll chime back in on this thread. I do think Moses will start next year as the “5” as I don’t expect a freshman big to come in and start except in some rare cases. Usually need time to adjust to the college game unless they are really elite. Could be wrong – we’ll see. And while I do think Moses has the capability to work offensively in the modified Princeton set we run – he has decent hands and most importantly can make the 15-18 foot shot from the foul line area – I don’t think we should or will go back to it simply because Banks graduates. The strength of our offense this year and next is our guards – Jose and DeVoe – so you run an offense tailored to them. And that is more the high pick and roll type of set. Though others would work as well – horn set, etc. The issue we have right now with the high pick and roll set we run is that we have a strong propensity to disintegrate into one pick and drive offense with no ball movement or anything other than Jose or at times DeVoe trying to make a play against a set D. We start out games with passing and movement prior to a high screen but by halfway through the first half Jose brings it down, calls for a pick and then goes to the matt trying to get into the paint off that one screen. I play a game counting the number of times the ball reverses sides and this number gets woefully small when we go into our patented offensive blackouts. I really do believe the outlandish number of turnovers we have is directly related to the fact we don’t move the ball or the defense and thus we are driving against set defenses a lot more than we should. No wonder we turn the ball over like we do. A high pick is simply a way to initiate an offense – shouldn’t be seen as “an offense”. The next iteration for us on offense is to get comfortable and confident in ball movement – and get to a point where we we know how to get defenses moving and can get the ball to different players in their comfort spot where they can do something with it. If Moses is at the 5 we can do that with a true 4 out system – if Moses is at the 4 then we need to look at how Mich State runs their 2 bigs or even how Mich did it under Belein and use him within 18 feet. Regardless of where Moses plays next year we need to be looking at how we move the ball and how we structure movement off the ball. Couple of off ball screens for DeVoe and/or Moore/Sjolund/Price would be a neat new twist to see. As an aside, any roster with Banks and to a lesser extent Moses ain't structured to play positionless basketball. Banks ain't switching onto guards on the perimeter except in emergencies and putting him in any perimeter position on offense is a disaster. VT can come close to doing this as they don't have any true 5's. Duke could do it with Zion as a small ball center and run a 5 out offense. Any idea we can play true positionless BB is misguided. I would love to see us be more interchangeable with the 1-3 slots but that is about all we can do. [/QUOTE]
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