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<blockquote data-quote="takethepoints" data-source="post: 756873" data-attributes="member: 265"><p>Almost everything I would have said has been said already by Ron. I would only add this: rankings of high school football players are inherently noisy. The people ranking them are (usually) fans attached to particular programs. When the kid expresses an interest in that school, the rater takes a look. They don't use uniform measures or scales when they do. Also, the raw data usually consists of highlight films, an inherently less useful source. If the kid goes to one of the camps, you can get something approaching actual physical data, but the comparisons of talents there are so unlike game conditions that it is of dubious use. I do agree that there is probably less noise of this sort in the Rivals ratings, but not enough to convince me.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, the 5 star kids stand out. I didn't have doubt one about Shamire; he'd start and soon. Calvin was similar. (I still remember what Chan said when he signed, "Coach Nix just became a much better football coach.") They aren't the problem. The difficulties come with the 4 star and even more 3 star players. Trying to get comparative rankings on them is, imho, almost impossible, given the way it is done now. It could be improved, but I doubt the rating sites will ever do that.</p><p></p><p>Does this mean I don't pay attention to the ratings sites? Of course not; that's where I gate most of the information about who Tech has signed and other pertinent data. But I really don't pay much attention to where Tech ends up in the recruiting rankings. The real question is whether the coaches think a player fits their needs and that he will stay in school long enough to contribute regularly. It is <em>their</em> ratngs that matter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takethepoints, post: 756873, member: 265"] Almost everything I would have said has been said already by Ron. I would only add this: rankings of high school football players are inherently noisy. The people ranking them are (usually) fans attached to particular programs. When the kid expresses an interest in that school, the rater takes a look. They don't use uniform measures or scales when they do. Also, the raw data usually consists of highlight films, an inherently less useful source. If the kid goes to one of the camps, you can get something approaching actual physical data, but the comparisons of talents there are so unlike game conditions that it is of dubious use. I do agree that there is probably less noise of this sort in the Rivals ratings, but not enough to convince me. Like I said, the 5 star kids stand out. I didn't have doubt one about Shamire; he'd start and soon. Calvin was similar. (I still remember what Chan said when he signed, "Coach Nix just became a much better football coach.") They aren't the problem. The difficulties come with the 4 star and even more 3 star players. Trying to get comparative rankings on them is, imho, almost impossible, given the way it is done now. It could be improved, but I doubt the rating sites will ever do that. Does this mean I don't pay attention to the ratings sites? Of course not; that's where I gate most of the information about who Tech has signed and other pertinent data. But I really don't pay much attention to where Tech ends up in the recruiting rankings. The real question is whether the coaches think a player fits their needs and that he will stay in school long enough to contribute regularly. It is [I]their[/I] ratngs that matter. [/QUOTE]
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