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<blockquote data-quote="GTRX7" data-source="post: 505494" data-attributes="member: 1045"><p>You crack me up sometimes. You say in your response that you sometimes get accused of "cherry picking data," and then proceed to accomplish some extreme cherry picking to support your point that CPJ's offense must have significantly hurt recruiting.</p><p></p><p>Listen, if you wanted to be objective and look at, specifically, the question of whether CPJ's offense significantly hurt recruiting, looking at the previous 6 years of data with a similar average recruiting coach (CCG) but with a completely different offense makes the most sense. Those are also the only years we have full data. Comparing those, there really isn't any difference in success. Instead, you pick the one good year CCG had and combine it with some assumptions about 1999 - 2001 based on some anecdotal data to conclude that "4 of the previous 9 classes prior to CPJ were top 30 with 3 being top 20." Lol. So much cherry picking it hurts my brain. Moreover, you still seem to gloss over the academic issues, APR, and relative recruiting budgets when comparing GOL to CCG/CPJ. Heck, if you want to go back all the way to GOL, why stop there. How did CPJ compare to B***L L****S? Guessing that doesn't fit the narrative either though.</p><p></p><p>Again, I don't think CPJ was a particularly good recruiter and I do think his offense, on balance, probably hurt more than it helped. But any objective view of the most comparative data shows that it certainly didn't hurt that much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GTRX7, post: 505494, member: 1045"] You crack me up sometimes. You say in your response that you sometimes get accused of "cherry picking data," and then proceed to accomplish some extreme cherry picking to support your point that CPJ's offense must have significantly hurt recruiting. Listen, if you wanted to be objective and look at, specifically, the question of whether CPJ's offense significantly hurt recruiting, looking at the previous 6 years of data with a similar average recruiting coach (CCG) but with a completely different offense makes the most sense. Those are also the only years we have full data. Comparing those, there really isn't any difference in success. Instead, you pick the one good year CCG had and combine it with some assumptions about 1999 - 2001 based on some anecdotal data to conclude that "4 of the previous 9 classes prior to CPJ were top 30 with 3 being top 20." Lol. So much cherry picking it hurts my brain. Moreover, you still seem to gloss over the academic issues, APR, and relative recruiting budgets when comparing GOL to CCG/CPJ. Heck, if you want to go back all the way to GOL, why stop there. How did CPJ compare to B***L L****S? Guessing that doesn't fit the narrative either though. Again, I don't think CPJ was a particularly good recruiter and I do think his offense, on balance, probably hurt more than it helped. But any objective view of the most comparative data shows that it certainly didn't hurt that much. [/QUOTE]
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