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<blockquote data-quote="slugboy" data-source="post: 859996" data-attributes="member: 282"><p>in the “Fire Josh Pastner” thread, I went back and looked at the Gregory and Hewitt eras. Towards the end of the Hewitt era we were getting highly ranked classes and one-and-done lottery picks on the team and still missing out on the NCAA tournament. I think that Pastner would have gone a lot farther with Hewitt's and Gregory's teams than they did.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what you mean by a consistent tourney team. Here's the last 25 years. Even the best Hewitt years are every 2-3 years in the tourney. I didn't include it, but Pastner has done better in conference than Hewitt or Gregory did. And Pastner is having to rebuild from what Gregory left. And, we haven't given him a ton of recruiting support--not nearly what FSU is giving, for example. </p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><th></th><th></th><th>Over</th><th>Over</th><th>Over</th><th></th><th></th><th></th><th></th><th></th><th></th></tr><tr><th></th><th></th><th>Over</th><th>Over</th><th>Over</th><th></th><th></th><th></th><th></th><th></th><th></th></tr><tr><td>Rk</td><td>Season</td><td>W</td><td>L</td><td>W-L%</td><td>AP Pre</td><td>AP High</td><td>AP Final</td><td>NCAA Tournament</td><td>Seed</td><td>Coach(es)</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>2021-22</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>.429</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Josh Pastner (6-8)</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>2020-21</td><td>17</td><td>9</td><td>.654</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Lost First Round</td><td>9</td><td>Josh Pastner (17-9)</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>2019-20</td><td>17</td><td>14</td><td>.548</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Josh Pastner (17-14)</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>2018-19</td><td>14</td><td>18</td><td>.438</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Josh Pastner (14-18)</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>2017-18</td><td>13</td><td>19</td><td>.406</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Josh Pastner (13-19)</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>2016-17</td><td>21</td><td>16</td><td>.568</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Josh Pastner (21-16)</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>2015-16</td><td>21</td><td>15</td><td>.583</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Brian Gregory (21-15)</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>2014-15</td><td>12</td><td>19</td><td>.387</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Brian Gregory (12-19)</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>2013-14</td><td>16</td><td>17</td><td>.485</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Brian Gregory (16-17)</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>2012-13</td><td>16</td><td>15</td><td>.516</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Brian Gregory (16-15)</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>2011-12</td><td>11</td><td>20</td><td>.355</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Brian Gregory (11-20)</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>2010-11</td><td>13</td><td>18</td><td>.419</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Paul Hewitt (13-18)</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>2009-10</td><td>23</td><td>13</td><td>.639</td><td>22</td><td>19</td><td></td><td>Lost Second Round</td><td>10</td><td>Paul Hewitt (23-13)</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>2008-09</td><td>12</td><td>19</td><td>.387</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Paul Hewitt (12-19)</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>2007-08</td><td>15</td><td>17</td><td>.469</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Paul Hewitt (15-17)</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>2006-07</td><td>20</td><td>12</td><td>.625</td><td>23</td><td>19</td><td></td><td>Lost First Round</td><td>10</td><td>Paul Hewitt (20-12)</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>2005-06</td><td>11</td><td>17</td><td>.393</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Paul Hewitt (11-17)</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>2004-05</td><td>20</td><td>12</td><td>.625</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>25</td><td>Lost Second Round</td><td>5</td><td>Paul Hewitt (20-12)</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>2003-04</td><td>28</td><td>10</td><td>.737</td><td></td><td>3</td><td>14</td><td>Lost National Final</td><td>3</td><td>Paul Hewitt (28-10)</td></tr><tr><td>20</td><td>2002-03</td><td>16</td><td>15</td><td>.516</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Paul Hewitt (16-15)</td></tr><tr><td>21</td><td>2001-02</td><td>15</td><td>16</td><td>.484</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Paul Hewitt (15-16)</td></tr><tr><td>22</td><td>2000-01</td><td>17</td><td>13</td><td>.567</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Lost First Round</td><td>8</td><td>Paul Hewitt (17-13)</td></tr><tr><td>23</td><td>1999-00</td><td>13</td><td>17</td><td>.433</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Bobby Cremins (13-17)</td></tr><tr><td>24</td><td>1998-99</td><td>15</td><td>16</td><td>.484</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Bobby Cremins (15-16)</td></tr><tr><td>25</td><td>1997-98</td><td>19</td><td>14</td><td>.576</td><td></td><td>22</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>Bobby Cremins (19-14)</td></tr></table><p></p><p>Provided by <a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/sharing.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool" target="_blank">CBB at Sports Reference</a>: <a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/georgia-tech/?sr&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool#georgia-tech" target="_blank">View Original Table</a></p><p>Generated 1/10/2022.</p><p></p><p>Get Old Stay Old is a good fundamental part of building a good team. If you're going to build a team, the first thing is GOSO. The next level is adding in top 100 players and the occasional one and done to be a top 15 team. It's the second thing that we haven't done enough of. Stepping up recruiting support to bump up our recruiting even a little would pay big dividends. But Pastner has done a solid rebuild job.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slugboy, post: 859996, member: 282"] in the “Fire Josh Pastner” thread, I went back and looked at the Gregory and Hewitt eras. Towards the end of the Hewitt era we were getting highly ranked classes and one-and-done lottery picks on the team and still missing out on the NCAA tournament. I think that Pastner would have gone a lot farther with Hewitt's and Gregory's teams than they did. I'm not sure what you mean by a consistent tourney team. Here's the last 25 years. Even the best Hewitt years are every 2-3 years in the tourney. I didn't include it, but Pastner has done better in conference than Hewitt or Gregory did. And Pastner is having to rebuild from what Gregory left. And, we haven't given him a ton of recruiting support--not nearly what FSU is giving, for example. 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Get Old Stay Old is a good fundamental part of building a good team. If you're going to build a team, the first thing is GOSO. The next level is adding in top 100 players and the occasional one and done to be a top 15 team. It's the second thing that we haven't done enough of. Stepping up recruiting support to bump up our recruiting even a little would pay big dividends. But Pastner has done a solid rebuild job. [/QUOTE]
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