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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 2897" data-source="post: 293840"><p>What's really funny is that they at the top state that Clemson has signature wins: <em>"The Demon Deacons (16-12, 7-9) have a much better record in the ACC than bubble teams Clemson and Pittsburgh. But unlike those teams they don’t really have any signature victories" </em>Wake Forest has a #45 RPI, is 0-7 against ranked teams and is 6-12 against the top 100. Clemson's RPI at 61 is much worse, they are also 0-7 against ranked teams, and are 9-13 against the top 100. What really is the difference? All of Clemson's wins they list as 'good' are against other bubble teams or teams off the bubble. Its ridiculous. They are 14-14 and might not even qualify for the NIT. If they split their last 2 home games and lose in the first round of the ACC Tournament, they're 15-16. Best case scenario is they win out and win twice in the ACC Tournament, however unlikely that sounds. That gets them to 18-15. And 3 of those next 4 games would be against teams with RPIs that average 75 (NC State, Boston College, then ACC Tournament), so none of those would be quality wins either.</p><p></p><p>I don't see how any of the ACC's "out for now"s in that article have any chance unless they win out the rest of the season and win at least 2 games in the ACC Tournament. I guess people just think the ACC is so amazingly fantastic this year (which it is) that they are willing to throw out all the usual rules for teams in our conference. But they need to be ready to explain why RPIs don't matter and why a team with a bunch of close losses is different this year compared to every other year. Last year we went 18-14 in the regular season, 8-10 in the ACC in a year where the conference absolutely and historically dominated the NCAA Tournament. And we got no real consideration for the NCAA Tournament. And, we lost 6 games by 5 or less points in games like @Louisville, @Syracuse, home versus Louisville, Virginia Tech, @Pitt, etc. I would be interested to hear from them why this year is so different - last year the ACC got 7 teams in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 2897, post: 293840"] What's really funny is that they at the top state that Clemson has signature wins: [I]"The Demon Deacons (16-12, 7-9) have a much better record in the ACC than bubble teams Clemson and Pittsburgh. But unlike those teams they don’t really have any signature victories" [/I]Wake Forest has a #45 RPI, is 0-7 against ranked teams and is 6-12 against the top 100. Clemson's RPI at 61 is much worse, they are also 0-7 against ranked teams, and are 9-13 against the top 100. What really is the difference? All of Clemson's wins they list as 'good' are against other bubble teams or teams off the bubble. Its ridiculous. They are 14-14 and might not even qualify for the NIT. If they split their last 2 home games and lose in the first round of the ACC Tournament, they're 15-16. Best case scenario is they win out and win twice in the ACC Tournament, however unlikely that sounds. That gets them to 18-15. And 3 of those next 4 games would be against teams with RPIs that average 75 (NC State, Boston College, then ACC Tournament), so none of those would be quality wins either. I don't see how any of the ACC's "out for now"s in that article have any chance unless they win out the rest of the season and win at least 2 games in the ACC Tournament. I guess people just think the ACC is so amazingly fantastic this year (which it is) that they are willing to throw out all the usual rules for teams in our conference. But they need to be ready to explain why RPIs don't matter and why a team with a bunch of close losses is different this year compared to every other year. Last year we went 18-14 in the regular season, 8-10 in the ACC in a year where the conference absolutely and historically dominated the NCAA Tournament. And we got no real consideration for the NCAA Tournament. And, we lost 6 games by 5 or less points in games like @Louisville, @Syracuse, home versus Louisville, Virginia Tech, @Pitt, etc. I would be interested to hear from them why this year is so different - last year the ACC got 7 teams in. [/QUOTE]
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