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<blockquote data-quote="GTNavyNuke" data-source="post: 407746" data-attributes="member: 322"><p>Great post. I think WHIP or strike % or a lot of other stats will converge to the came conclusion with enough data.</p><p></p><p>I have argued that English should be a starting pitcher because I felt that our starting pitching was more inadequate <span style="font-size: 9px">(half double negative there intended) </span>than our relieving pitching. The tradeoff is that when Curry or Thomas start, someone has to be able to carry us through to a win. Putting all of our reliable pitchers into the starting role would only lead to winning the game until our relievers came in and blew it. So we do need reliable relievers for the 4 or so innings after the reliever gets to his pitch count.</p><p></p><p>I think Datoc, Archer, Lee and Gibson should be able to carry us through to wins relieving if we are ahead. So I guess that English should be a starter still thinking about your info. He won't be able to go very long but will get better. By next year he'll be up to a full game and get drafted.</p><p></p><p>As to the cut off line between competitive and a "hot mess", I think Hughes and below are below the "hot mess". Anything more than 1.5 people on base an inning is unacceptable to holding a slim lead.</p><p></p><p>Finally, one different but related pitching thought. If we get swept by VT or only win one game, then it's screw the <em><u>marginal</u></em> upper class-men pitchers at that point and play Fr and So. No more Pitts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GTNavyNuke, post: 407746, member: 322"] Great post. I think WHIP or strike % or a lot of other stats will converge to the came conclusion with enough data. I have argued that English should be a starting pitcher because I felt that our starting pitching was more inadequate [SIZE=1](half double negative there intended) [/SIZE]than our relieving pitching. The tradeoff is that when Curry or Thomas start, someone has to be able to carry us through to a win. Putting all of our reliable pitchers into the starting role would only lead to winning the game until our relievers came in and blew it. So we do need reliable relievers for the 4 or so innings after the reliever gets to his pitch count. I think Datoc, Archer, Lee and Gibson should be able to carry us through to wins relieving if we are ahead. So I guess that English should be a starter still thinking about your info. He won't be able to go very long but will get better. By next year he'll be up to a full game and get drafted. As to the cut off line between competitive and a "hot mess", I think Hughes and below are below the "hot mess". Anything more than 1.5 people on base an inning is unacceptable to holding a slim lead. Finally, one different but related pitching thought. If we get swept by VT or only win one game, then it's screw the [I][U]marginal[/U][/I] upper class-men pitchers at that point and play Fr and So. No more Pitts. [/QUOTE]
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