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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 264431" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>My thoughts one day later.</p><p>A little better crowd than night 1.</p><p>GT has a huge talent issue (not that we didn't know this). We currently have 2 ACC level starter talents in Jackson and Lammers. No one else is ACC starter quality at this point.</p><p>okogie is the next most likely to get to that level but i think he will be a pretty typical ACC freshman. Q is what he is, an ACC level backup. Heath imo is an ACC level backup. </p><p></p><p>We played 7 guys last night (excluding Ogbonda for 2 min in first half). I kept thinking we needed to steal some min on the bench for TJ and Lammers so they weren't gassed at the end - but never took that chance. I felt like by the 8 min mark we would lose - we simply were going to run out of gas.</p><p></p><p>You have to have more than 2 players that can score consistently and we do not. Okogie lost his cool a couple of times and it hurt the team. He will have to learn to control that a little better as he gains experience. He does alot of positive things though, even on a night where he couldn't find the bucket.</p><p></p><p>I've come around to Pea's thinking on Moore. We should be at least platooning him at PG once Heath comes back. His size and athleticism is a plus. His shooting is a huge negative and will have to improve significantly for him to be anything more than an ACC backup level PG. Teams are going to start to play off him as not only does he not have a 3-pt shot - he really doesn't have a 10-12 fter either. His FT's also need significant improvement. Potential is there, but he is a year away from being a major contributor. This offseason for him has to be all about shooting.</p><p></p><p>To compete in the ACC you need at least 3 consistent scorers, preferably more. This team may have only 2. </p><p></p><p>Pastner made a comment in the post game that since we are not a 3-pt shooting team (good that he recognizes that) we have to make more FT's than our opponents attempt. He also said players can't just hope the refs call fouls, you have to make offensive plays that force them to call fouls. He said Ohio was 7-16 FT we needed to make at least 16 to make up for the fact we aren't going to hit many threes.</p><p></p><p>After a good first half on defense we had multiple breakdowns in the second half. Lost Kaminski on multiple occasions and had multiple examples of miscommunicating on the pick and roll. </p><p></p><p>Campbell was a beast. He is an ACC level big. Watching him an Lammers was alot of fun.</p><p></p><p>i feel for Pastner. I think he and his staff are trying to do the best with what they have, but they really are pretty limited right now. I think Lammers and TJ can score fairly consistently ,though teams are going to really start to gameplan them. okogie will be a lesser third wheel - think he can avg 8-9 ppg against ACC teams. Q will have 1 big game every 2 weeks and otherwise be quiet. One of Heath or Moore have to be pretty consistent at scoring.</p><p></p><p>AD can help on defense but is a black hole on offense. Ogbonda is a project. Matthews is probably a year away.</p><p></p><p>I thought this was probably a 60/40 game in favor of Ohio. So i'm not depressed or overly disappointed. All this game did was provide a data point that makes me believe my overall belief about this year's team and it's potential is probably about right. Probably about 10 wins +-1.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 264431, member: 1776"] My thoughts one day later. A little better crowd than night 1. GT has a huge talent issue (not that we didn't know this). We currently have 2 ACC level starter talents in Jackson and Lammers. No one else is ACC starter quality at this point. okogie is the next most likely to get to that level but i think he will be a pretty typical ACC freshman. Q is what he is, an ACC level backup. Heath imo is an ACC level backup. We played 7 guys last night (excluding Ogbonda for 2 min in first half). I kept thinking we needed to steal some min on the bench for TJ and Lammers so they weren't gassed at the end - but never took that chance. I felt like by the 8 min mark we would lose - we simply were going to run out of gas. You have to have more than 2 players that can score consistently and we do not. Okogie lost his cool a couple of times and it hurt the team. He will have to learn to control that a little better as he gains experience. He does alot of positive things though, even on a night where he couldn't find the bucket. I've come around to Pea's thinking on Moore. We should be at least platooning him at PG once Heath comes back. His size and athleticism is a plus. His shooting is a huge negative and will have to improve significantly for him to be anything more than an ACC backup level PG. Teams are going to start to play off him as not only does he not have a 3-pt shot - he really doesn't have a 10-12 fter either. His FT's also need significant improvement. Potential is there, but he is a year away from being a major contributor. This offseason for him has to be all about shooting. To compete in the ACC you need at least 3 consistent scorers, preferably more. This team may have only 2. Pastner made a comment in the post game that since we are not a 3-pt shooting team (good that he recognizes that) we have to make more FT's than our opponents attempt. He also said players can't just hope the refs call fouls, you have to make offensive plays that force them to call fouls. He said Ohio was 7-16 FT we needed to make at least 16 to make up for the fact we aren't going to hit many threes. After a good first half on defense we had multiple breakdowns in the second half. Lost Kaminski on multiple occasions and had multiple examples of miscommunicating on the pick and roll. Campbell was a beast. He is an ACC level big. Watching him an Lammers was alot of fun. i feel for Pastner. I think he and his staff are trying to do the best with what they have, but they really are pretty limited right now. I think Lammers and TJ can score fairly consistently ,though teams are going to really start to gameplan them. okogie will be a lesser third wheel - think he can avg 8-9 ppg against ACC teams. Q will have 1 big game every 2 weeks and otherwise be quiet. One of Heath or Moore have to be pretty consistent at scoring. AD can help on defense but is a black hole on offense. Ogbonda is a project. Matthews is probably a year away. I thought this was probably a 60/40 game in favor of Ohio. So i'm not depressed or overly disappointed. All this game did was provide a data point that makes me believe my overall belief about this year's team and it's potential is probably about right. Probably about 10 wins +-1. [/QUOTE]
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