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<blockquote data-quote="YJMD" data-source="post: 800921" data-attributes="member: 1929"><p>I expected it to be legally tested somewhere. The big difference here being that the COVID-19 vaccines are under emergency authorization, so from a legal standpoint as to a risk category, there is a difference. I'm not sure if any emergency use vaccine has had a legal test applied to it. Possibly back in the day with the 1976 H1N1 pandemic, although I'm not sure whether the vaccine programs then were ever mandatory. It's certainly the kind of history that would be the substance of legal arguments against mandating such a vaccine.</p><p></p><p>From a public health standpoint, there is a lot more compelling reason to mandate COVID-19 vaccination than the risks of some of the other diseases. Of course, a large reason why other diseases aren't such a public health risk is because vaccine immunity is so high. That said, the calculus is quite different as the risks of unvaccinated youth apply more to the youth being vectors for community spread rather than the risk of the illness to the youth themselves. Not that this is unworthy of consideration, particularly when looking at things outside of risk of death. That part is not too terribly different than other mandatory vaccines, as really the school isn't as much interested in forcing someone to protect themselves but rather that a group of unvaccinated individuals presents a significant risk of outbreak. College campuses are much more fertile breeding grounds for disease than most community settings. Still, they are there principally worried about the risk posed by unvaccinated individuals to <em>other students</em> rather than a greater community, so it is a bit different. I'm not certain how faculty/staff would play in here, although obviously those individuals have means to protect themselves through vaccination, PPE, virtual work if individually high risk, etc. Overall, trying to quantify the risk is a hazardous activity. I'm not going to engage in it except to provide some general principles and correct overt errors posted in response. The CDC, academic epidemiology departments, etc. can do the detail work and I'll refer to their analysis. Not that I think they wouldn't be potentially too conservative in a risk assessment or otherwise flawed, but I'm not really interested in some lay analysis that attempts to debunk their findings. Whether or not you or I could find fault in that analysis doesn't really mean anything as to whether that fault exists.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="YJMD, post: 800921, member: 1929"] I expected it to be legally tested somewhere. The big difference here being that the COVID-19 vaccines are under emergency authorization, so from a legal standpoint as to a risk category, there is a difference. I'm not sure if any emergency use vaccine has had a legal test applied to it. Possibly back in the day with the 1976 H1N1 pandemic, although I'm not sure whether the vaccine programs then were ever mandatory. It's certainly the kind of history that would be the substance of legal arguments against mandating such a vaccine. From a public health standpoint, there is a lot more compelling reason to mandate COVID-19 vaccination than the risks of some of the other diseases. Of course, a large reason why other diseases aren't such a public health risk is because vaccine immunity is so high. That said, the calculus is quite different as the risks of unvaccinated youth apply more to the youth being vectors for community spread rather than the risk of the illness to the youth themselves. Not that this is unworthy of consideration, particularly when looking at things outside of risk of death. That part is not too terribly different than other mandatory vaccines, as really the school isn't as much interested in forcing someone to protect themselves but rather that a group of unvaccinated individuals presents a significant risk of outbreak. College campuses are much more fertile breeding grounds for disease than most community settings. Still, they are there principally worried about the risk posed by unvaccinated individuals to [I]other students[/I] rather than a greater community, so it is a bit different. I'm not certain how faculty/staff would play in here, although obviously those individuals have means to protect themselves through vaccination, PPE, virtual work if individually high risk, etc. Overall, trying to quantify the risk is a hazardous activity. I'm not going to engage in it except to provide some general principles and correct overt errors posted in response. The CDC, academic epidemiology departments, etc. can do the detail work and I'll refer to their analysis. Not that I think they wouldn't be potentially too conservative in a risk assessment or otherwise flawed, but I'm not really interested in some lay analysis that attempts to debunk their findings. Whether or not you or I could find fault in that analysis doesn't really mean anything as to whether that fault exists. [/QUOTE]
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