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<blockquote data-quote="CuseJacket" data-source="post: 768646" data-attributes="member: 274"><p>Your questions are referring to a subject I am not. And I understand and sympathize with your point.</p><p></p><p>My post was talking about when we should expect HS recruits to contribute to a football team. Typically, expecting redshirt freshmen to be significant contributors is not a strategy for success, <em>especially on the OL and DL.</em> I think you'd agree.</p><p></p><p>That is how seasoned Collins' first full class of recruits will be next year. We should really be expecting those guys to augment the upperclassmen simply due to differences in college S&C/experience/etc, even though those upperclassmen sometimes have a lower ceiling, rather than expecting redshirt freshmen to carry the load, <em>especially on the OL and DL.</em></p><p></p><p>You are asking about win/loss record next year, which is different and more complex in my mind. Obviously W/L includes more variables such as scheme, gameday decisions, opponent strength, etc. My opinion there is I expect to see improvement in W/L over this year, provided we stay healthy. As long as the trajectory remains up, even if the incremental W/L improvement is shy of the gain I'd prefer to see, I'm willing to give a long leash.</p><p></p><p>I've admitted many times that I am probably more patient and forgiving of coaches unless I see a clear black and white mistake, of which I think Collins has fumbled some. Truly, I think even 3 years is hard to gauge success. We're still talking about a coach's first full class being redshirt sophomores. Again, feels like a losing proposition to rely on those. I prefer every coach get 4-5 years to understand their full potential, even though there should be signs of progression before then. Hopefully we are accelerating some of this via transfers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CuseJacket, post: 768646, member: 274"] Your questions are referring to a subject I am not. And I understand and sympathize with your point. My post was talking about when we should expect HS recruits to contribute to a football team. Typically, expecting redshirt freshmen to be significant contributors is not a strategy for success, [I]especially on the OL and DL.[/I] I think you'd agree. That is how seasoned Collins' first full class of recruits will be next year. We should really be expecting those guys to augment the upperclassmen simply due to differences in college S&C/experience/etc, even though those upperclassmen sometimes have a lower ceiling, rather than expecting redshirt freshmen to carry the load, [I]especially on the OL and DL.[/I] You are asking about win/loss record next year, which is different and more complex in my mind. Obviously W/L includes more variables such as scheme, gameday decisions, opponent strength, etc. My opinion there is I expect to see improvement in W/L over this year, provided we stay healthy. As long as the trajectory remains up, even if the incremental W/L improvement is shy of the gain I'd prefer to see, I'm willing to give a long leash. I've admitted many times that I am probably more patient and forgiving of coaches unless I see a clear black and white mistake, of which I think Collins has fumbled some. Truly, I think even 3 years is hard to gauge success. We're still talking about a coach's first full class being redshirt sophomores. Again, feels like a losing proposition to rely on those. I prefer every coach get 4-5 years to understand their full potential, even though there should be signs of progression before then. Hopefully we are accelerating some of this via transfers. [/QUOTE]
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