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<blockquote data-quote="YlJacket" data-source="post: 863569" data-attributes="member: 2784"><p>NES you have expressed it well. though I do want to gently correct you that our FB program was indeed worse in the late 70s prior to the ACC. On your other point, I had a very good friend of mine blow up at me for what I thought was some gentle joking of him on the political side. Didn't want to hear it was at best "sour". It carries over to places like this. I do my best to not really engage in rabbit trails but won't claim total innocence. </p><p></p><p>As for the team, other than the fact they almost always play hard, there hasn't been a lot to really get positive about. And a couple of UNC/WF type games that make really negative comments almost unavoidable. But it is hard to see this team the way it is currently constructed being anything other than maybe middle of the pack ACC level for a while. And I do consider myself more of an optimist. So it isn't hard to understand folks who are less optimistic in their outlook simply saying muck it and not showing up or showing up and expressing an arguably legit pessimism about the team.</p><p></p><p>I have played on teams that were not very good and have had kids play for programs that were at times not very good. It is hard - really hard to keep your drive and focus as a player when it isn't going well. So I have a lot of respect for Pastner and the players that they generally play really hard. Major league kudos to them. And I try to keep to a minimum my comments/thoughts that they are having to play a lot harder than they should primarily because of their offensive strategy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="YlJacket, post: 863569, member: 2784"] NES you have expressed it well. though I do want to gently correct you that our FB program was indeed worse in the late 70s prior to the ACC. On your other point, I had a very good friend of mine blow up at me for what I thought was some gentle joking of him on the political side. Didn't want to hear it was at best "sour". It carries over to places like this. I do my best to not really engage in rabbit trails but won't claim total innocence. As for the team, other than the fact they almost always play hard, there hasn't been a lot to really get positive about. And a couple of UNC/WF type games that make really negative comments almost unavoidable. But it is hard to see this team the way it is currently constructed being anything other than maybe middle of the pack ACC level for a while. And I do consider myself more of an optimist. So it isn't hard to understand folks who are less optimistic in their outlook simply saying muck it and not showing up or showing up and expressing an arguably legit pessimism about the team. I have played on teams that were not very good and have had kids play for programs that were at times not very good. It is hard - really hard to keep your drive and focus as a player when it isn't going well. So I have a lot of respect for Pastner and the players that they generally play really hard. Major league kudos to them. And I try to keep to a minimum my comments/thoughts that they are having to play a lot harder than they should primarily because of their offensive strategy. [/QUOTE]
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