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<blockquote data-quote="AE 87" data-source="post: 123949" data-attributes="member: 195"><p>Fair enough. You made reference to the "previous one" which was about AGW and was connected with the politics of science from the beginning. If you're only point is that this decade is the warmest for the globe of the last 15, than why do you care? </p><p></p><p>Also, could you explain the data? How have global temperatures been measured over the last 150 years. How do they correlate the sophisticated measurements of today with less sophisticated measurements of 100 years ago? More to the point, given NASA's participation in fraudulent reporting in the past, why do you trust this data now?</p><p></p><p>I ask because, NASA has been shown to make mistakes on a related issue: <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aBBQO5XgLQu4" target="_blank">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aBBQO5XgLQu4</a></p><p>It seems that the data may still support the claims of 1999 that the US has not been getting warmer while the globe has been: <a href="http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/" target="_blank">http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/</a></p><p></p><p>So, NASA admitted adjusting US data when caught; however, one of the guys who caught them has also argued that they've been doing it with other data as well: <a href="https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaa-and-nasa-data-alterations-are-global/" target="_blank">https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaa-and-nasa-data-alterations-are-global/</a> I admit that I don't </p><p></p><p>Here's a Judith Curry piece from last year: <a href="http://judithcurry.com/2014/06/28/skeptical-of-skeptics-is-steve-goddard-right/" target="_blank">http://judithcurry.com/2014/06/28/skeptical-of-skeptics-is-steve-goddard-right/</a></p><p></p><p>So, I guess my question comes down to wondering your basis for trusting this data in light of these accusations? If you want to talk about that data set, could you explain your confidence in it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AE 87, post: 123949, member: 195"] Fair enough. You made reference to the "previous one" which was about AGW and was connected with the politics of science from the beginning. If you're only point is that this decade is the warmest for the globe of the last 15, than why do you care? Also, could you explain the data? How have global temperatures been measured over the last 150 years. How do they correlate the sophisticated measurements of today with less sophisticated measurements of 100 years ago? More to the point, given NASA's participation in fraudulent reporting in the past, why do you trust this data now? I ask because, NASA has been shown to make mistakes on a related issue: [URL]http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aBBQO5XgLQu4[/URL] It seems that the data may still support the claims of 1999 that the US has not been getting warmer while the globe has been: [URL]http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/[/URL] So, NASA admitted adjusting US data when caught; however, one of the guys who caught them has also argued that they've been doing it with other data as well: [URL]https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaa-and-nasa-data-alterations-are-global/[/URL] I admit that I don't Here's a Judith Curry piece from last year: [URL]http://judithcurry.com/2014/06/28/skeptical-of-skeptics-is-steve-goddard-right/[/URL] So, I guess my question comes down to wondering your basis for trusting this data in light of these accusations? If you want to talk about that data set, could you explain your confidence in it? [/QUOTE]
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