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NCAA denies waivers for Clayton, Ezzard; Sims granted immediate eligibility
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<blockquote data-quote="GT99" data-source="post: 613277" data-attributes="member: 4742"><p>If you're going to reference statistics in your argument, I would recommend showing the statistics. I don't have them, but my perception based on what I have seen is that they are not very consistent. I'm certainly open to seeing statistics otherwise, but it's a matter of your perception vs the perception of others at this point. To be clear, they might be consistent in 80% or even 90% of cases - when it comes to enforcing rules, a 10% exception rate still says there is something wrong with the rules or with the enforcement. But I agree with a lot of your other take prior in this thread about what the rules should be.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No. The Fields and Martells are news because they are high profile athletes, not because they are exceptions. Do you think if Owen Condon had transferred from UGA to Ohio State his waiver status would have been news [I picked a random redshirt freshman off of UGA's team]? Not to anyone outside of UGA or Ohio State.</p><p></p><p>Regarding hypocrisy, the argument has been around the consistency of the NCAA. You think they have been consistent. Many do not agree. You redirected to a hypocrisy attack not relevant to that conversation. If the NCAA had clear rules to apply consistently, it wouldn't take months to reach a decision, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GT99, post: 613277, member: 4742"] If you're going to reference statistics in your argument, I would recommend showing the statistics. I don't have them, but my perception based on what I have seen is that they are not very consistent. I'm certainly open to seeing statistics otherwise, but it's a matter of your perception vs the perception of others at this point. To be clear, they might be consistent in 80% or even 90% of cases - when it comes to enforcing rules, a 10% exception rate still says there is something wrong with the rules or with the enforcement. But I agree with a lot of your other take prior in this thread about what the rules should be. No. The Fields and Martells are news because they are high profile athletes, not because they are exceptions. Do you think if Owen Condon had transferred from UGA to Ohio State his waiver status would have been news [I picked a random redshirt freshman off of UGA's team]? Not to anyone outside of UGA or Ohio State. Regarding hypocrisy, the argument has been around the consistency of the NCAA. You think they have been consistent. Many do not agree. You redirected to a hypocrisy attack not relevant to that conversation. If the NCAA had clear rules to apply consistently, it wouldn't take months to reach a decision, and we wouldn't be having this conversation. [/QUOTE]
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