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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 844409" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>Can we please stop arguing over Collins and Johnson. That is all basically irrelevant. Johnson hasn't been here for 3 yrs. I wanted Johnson's teams to win every game when he was our coach. I want Collins' teams to win every game now.</p><p></p><p>When Johnson decided to retire it was not a big secret that the important donors did not want another 3O coach, that was not an option. I also don't think that if Collins ultimately fails and we have to replace him that we will go to a 3O coach. I don't think the money men will support that.</p><p></p><p>The only comment I will make on GT football coaches in general is that due to the limitations at GT (alumni size, budget, majors, etc) I believe you have to have an above average coach at GT for GT to have a chance at winning seasons. Not all programs are created equal and GT is below the median in alot of the measures for a P5 job. IMO Ross, O'Leary, Gailey, and Johnson were all above average college coaches. I hope Collins will join them, even though the early results are not promising.</p><p></p><p>What concerns me most about the current program is that the idea was a quick improvement in the defense (given who was hired as HC) who help cushion the blow of having to transition the offense. To this point it has been the opposite. This year's defense is likely to go down as the worst one so far this Century at GT. And Collins three defenses will rank as three of the four worst of this century at GT according to DFEI. The secondary has gotten worse every year -with alot of the same players. That suggests an issue more with coaching than with players.</p><p></p><p>We also knew that Collins was going to be learning on the job, but it is disappointing to see the same in-game coaching issues pop up after 3 years. </p><p></p><p>We can also stop talking about firing him after this season. That is not going to happen. The money is not there to do that and the idea that you will lose enough ticket sales where you would do it really is not seriously weighed as the majority of the money for the budget comes from the TV contract (also, there is largely a floor for season ticket sales even when a program is not doing well). When the day comes that we make a change GT is not that attractive of a job. This is not a Top 25 college football job, right now it isn't even a top half of the P5 job. The AD is likely going to be looking at G5 HC's and P5 assts as the pool of candidates. </p><p></p><p>I expect there will be changes made after the season, but I don't know what they will be. Schools often wait until after signing day to announce any changes so it doesn't impact the recruiting class. It will not surprise me if any changes are not publicly announced until after signing day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 844409, member: 1776"] Can we please stop arguing over Collins and Johnson. That is all basically irrelevant. Johnson hasn't been here for 3 yrs. I wanted Johnson's teams to win every game when he was our coach. I want Collins' teams to win every game now. When Johnson decided to retire it was not a big secret that the important donors did not want another 3O coach, that was not an option. I also don't think that if Collins ultimately fails and we have to replace him that we will go to a 3O coach. I don't think the money men will support that. The only comment I will make on GT football coaches in general is that due to the limitations at GT (alumni size, budget, majors, etc) I believe you have to have an above average coach at GT for GT to have a chance at winning seasons. Not all programs are created equal and GT is below the median in alot of the measures for a P5 job. IMO Ross, O'Leary, Gailey, and Johnson were all above average college coaches. I hope Collins will join them, even though the early results are not promising. What concerns me most about the current program is that the idea was a quick improvement in the defense (given who was hired as HC) who help cushion the blow of having to transition the offense. To this point it has been the opposite. This year's defense is likely to go down as the worst one so far this Century at GT. And Collins three defenses will rank as three of the four worst of this century at GT according to DFEI. The secondary has gotten worse every year -with alot of the same players. That suggests an issue more with coaching than with players. We also knew that Collins was going to be learning on the job, but it is disappointing to see the same in-game coaching issues pop up after 3 years. We can also stop talking about firing him after this season. That is not going to happen. The money is not there to do that and the idea that you will lose enough ticket sales where you would do it really is not seriously weighed as the majority of the money for the budget comes from the TV contract (also, there is largely a floor for season ticket sales even when a program is not doing well). When the day comes that we make a change GT is not that attractive of a job. This is not a Top 25 college football job, right now it isn't even a top half of the P5 job. The AD is likely going to be looking at G5 HC's and P5 assts as the pool of candidates. I expect there will be changes made after the season, but I don't know what they will be. Schools often wait until after signing day to announce any changes so it doesn't impact the recruiting class. It will not surprise me if any changes are not publicly announced until after signing day. [/QUOTE]
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