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<blockquote data-quote="thwgjacket" data-source="post: 49036" data-attributes="member: 165"><p>I agree that the start is a big part of it. I referenced that in the first post I made. However I disagree that a 40 can't be used to evaluate talent as a football player. If you do some outside of the box analysis like NFL teams do then it's rather easy to apply. For both OL and DL you are looking solely at the start and then the 10 yard split. Are they in a mirror image of the 3 point stance they will be in during a game? No, but it does show whether a guy can be explosive from a position with his hand on the ground. For skill players you're looking at explosiveness in the legs from a dead-stop position and then at stride length and top end speed. You need to see if a receiver has the top end speed to make a corner turn and run with him rather than allowing the corner to backpedal for a longer distance and making it easier for him to see the field. </p><p></p><p>It can also be used to judge athletic ability. Your more athletic guys tend to "float" when they run. They move smoothly and their head stays more still which allows for a less interrupted view of the surrounding playing field. I think you're looking at the 40 as a "is he fast" only measurable when in fact there are a lot of things that can be judged from it. As for the pads argument, I'm not sure how old you are or when you played, but pads today don't weigh much at all. Helmets weigh about 3 lbs and shoulder pads the same for position guys. Your average position guy in the NFL probably weighs about 200-210 lbs. So if you throw in a pound for the leg pads then all the pads still only add about 3.5% of body weight to a 200 lb player. That's nothing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thwgjacket, post: 49036, member: 165"] I agree that the start is a big part of it. I referenced that in the first post I made. However I disagree that a 40 can't be used to evaluate talent as a football player. If you do some outside of the box analysis like NFL teams do then it's rather easy to apply. For both OL and DL you are looking solely at the start and then the 10 yard split. Are they in a mirror image of the 3 point stance they will be in during a game? No, but it does show whether a guy can be explosive from a position with his hand on the ground. For skill players you're looking at explosiveness in the legs from a dead-stop position and then at stride length and top end speed. You need to see if a receiver has the top end speed to make a corner turn and run with him rather than allowing the corner to backpedal for a longer distance and making it easier for him to see the field. It can also be used to judge athletic ability. Your more athletic guys tend to "float" when they run. They move smoothly and their head stays more still which allows for a less interrupted view of the surrounding playing field. I think you're looking at the 40 as a "is he fast" only measurable when in fact there are a lot of things that can be judged from it. As for the pads argument, I'm not sure how old you are or when you played, but pads today don't weigh much at all. Helmets weigh about 3 lbs and shoulder pads the same for position guys. Your average position guy in the NFL probably weighs about 200-210 lbs. So if you throw in a pound for the leg pads then all the pads still only add about 3.5% of body weight to a 200 lb player. That's nothing. [/QUOTE]
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