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<blockquote data-quote="Techster" data-source="post: 473723" data-attributes="member: 360"><p>You bring up a good point.</p><p></p><p>CPJ has been here for 10+ years now. Chances are higher that GT will no longer have sustained success under CPJ. If you look at the history of coaches who have stayed at a school for a good duration, once the coach's team starts having more bad seasons than good seasons, it's too late to turn the ship around under that coach. Especially if a coach is closer to the end of his coaching career...which CPJ is.</p><p></p><p>IMO, success for GT is a bowl game every year, and maybe an ACC Championship appearance every 3-4 years when personnel has the right mix of upper classmen and special players (see 2008, 2009, 2014). Let's not forget, at one time we were tied for second in the nation for the longest bowl streak...almost 2 decades straight. It's MUCH easier to make a bowl game now than when the bowl streak started. </p><p></p><p>I made a statement a few years ago that GT should be more attractive to kids because there were some things you could expect if you signed here and played for CPJ: An elite education, a trip to a bowl game every year, and the chance to play for the ACC Championship. If you look at CPJ from 2008-2014, that was spot on. GT will always give an SA the opportunity of an elite education no matter who the coach is, but now I'm not certain you can tell kids they will play in a bowl game every year, and even harder to say they will have the opportunity to play for an ACC Championship. If we don't go to a bowl game this season, then there will be some players who will have experienced a bowl game only ONE time in their four years. Think about that. They will have missed out on more bowl games than going to a bowl game. </p><p></p><p>IMO, and I wrote this in another thread, keeping CPJ here is delaying the inevitable. More money will not help GT if CPJ is still the coach. GT may get fancier buildings, more staff, and more money to spend sending coaches all over the place (which GT already recruits nationally as you can see from our roster and the kids we target). If the capital drive had been 10 years ago and CPJ didn't have the history he did at GT, I think all the money we're raising could have made a substantial difference. Now? I think it's just putting a new coat of paint on the same old car. The engine, transmission, and everything else that makes the car go will be the same. </p><p></p><p>There are loyal fans that will support GT no matter who the coach is, but those are not the fans GT has to worry about. It's the other fans GT has to worry about. This was in the AJC this morning:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/notes-from-georgia-tech-loss-duke/dC6L2pea99ptqXb4LEDisN/" target="_blank">https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/notes-from-georgia-tech-loss-duke/dC6L2pea99ptqXb4LEDisN/</a></p><p></p><p><em>With two home dates remaining (Virginia and North Carolina), Tech’s average attendance is 43,191. Since Bobby Dodd Stadium expanded capacity to 55,000 for the 2003 season, the lowest average for a season was in 2012, 43,955.</em></p><p></p><p>It's not the losing that does a coach in. It's the fan and donor support. I am not that well connected to where CPJ stands with donors, but we can see fan support is beginning to erode. That is not a good sign for a coach.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Techster, post: 473723, member: 360"] You bring up a good point. CPJ has been here for 10+ years now. Chances are higher that GT will no longer have sustained success under CPJ. If you look at the history of coaches who have stayed at a school for a good duration, once the coach's team starts having more bad seasons than good seasons, it's too late to turn the ship around under that coach. Especially if a coach is closer to the end of his coaching career...which CPJ is. IMO, success for GT is a bowl game every year, and maybe an ACC Championship appearance every 3-4 years when personnel has the right mix of upper classmen and special players (see 2008, 2009, 2014). Let's not forget, at one time we were tied for second in the nation for the longest bowl streak...almost 2 decades straight. It's MUCH easier to make a bowl game now than when the bowl streak started. I made a statement a few years ago that GT should be more attractive to kids because there were some things you could expect if you signed here and played for CPJ: An elite education, a trip to a bowl game every year, and the chance to play for the ACC Championship. If you look at CPJ from 2008-2014, that was spot on. GT will always give an SA the opportunity of an elite education no matter who the coach is, but now I'm not certain you can tell kids they will play in a bowl game every year, and even harder to say they will have the opportunity to play for an ACC Championship. If we don't go to a bowl game this season, then there will be some players who will have experienced a bowl game only ONE time in their four years. Think about that. They will have missed out on more bowl games than going to a bowl game. IMO, and I wrote this in another thread, keeping CPJ here is delaying the inevitable. More money will not help GT if CPJ is still the coach. GT may get fancier buildings, more staff, and more money to spend sending coaches all over the place (which GT already recruits nationally as you can see from our roster and the kids we target). If the capital drive had been 10 years ago and CPJ didn't have the history he did at GT, I think all the money we're raising could have made a substantial difference. Now? I think it's just putting a new coat of paint on the same old car. The engine, transmission, and everything else that makes the car go will be the same. There are loyal fans that will support GT no matter who the coach is, but those are not the fans GT has to worry about. It's the other fans GT has to worry about. This was in the AJC this morning: [URL]https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/notes-from-georgia-tech-loss-duke/dC6L2pea99ptqXb4LEDisN/[/URL] [I]With two home dates remaining (Virginia and North Carolina), Tech’s average attendance is 43,191. Since Bobby Dodd Stadium expanded capacity to 55,000 for the 2003 season, the lowest average for a season was in 2012, 43,955.[/I] [I][/I] It's not the losing that does a coach in. It's the fan and donor support. I am not that well connected to where CPJ stands with donors, but we can see fan support is beginning to erode. That is not a good sign for a coach. [/QUOTE]
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