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<blockquote data-quote="CuseJacket" data-source="post: 750659" data-attributes="member: 274"><p>I think the acumen thing is right with Johnson. However, ultimately it didn't differentiate Johnson's results from Gailey's. Both had the same record vs. FBS over their tenures. Both generally fielded really good teams in one phase of the game and were anemic on the other side of the ball. Hit or miss on ST. Different ways to skin the cat.</p><p></p><p>I was and still am a big CPJ supporter, and I will only say this here because we're family on this board. Outside I will remain an unapologetic supporter. Overall I think CPJ's accomplishments were overall ok. Some have conflated his offensive advantages and clock management into something indicative of the team as a whole. The eyeball test and data says we were really bad on D. That was huge and kept us back, and I'm not sure whether that is taken as a foregone conclusion or fans just like to discuss offense.</p><p></p><p>Qualifying for the ACCCG one year at 5-6 vs. FBS was unremarkable and basically the performance achieved every year during the prior two regimes. We did nothing performance-wise that year out of the ordinary. The extenuating circumstance was that the rest of the division was also unremarkable and 2 teams were DQ'd from the ACCCG. Accounting for that, Johnson's 2 differentiated ACCCG appearances over 11 years is about the same as Gailey's 1 over 6 years.</p><p></p><p>The reason I mention the prior paragraphs is not to add to the coaching debate, but instead to level set on our prospects going forward. I don't think it's a stretch for Collins or some equivalent to achieve the same W/L results by simply making our D competent. And finding a place kicker, which all 3 of the most recent regimes have demonstrated is unreliable and requires a degree of luck.</p><p></p><p>Is that really too difficult to accomplish at GT? I'd say based on prior results and recruiting under Collins thus far, it's not. To be good on D, you need good players. We failed in that regard under the prior regime for a variety of reasons, and I think we're better set up for success going forward (HC experience on that side, funding, more attractive recruiting pitch, etc.). The 2020 recruiting class was a great start, but they won't be traditional upperclassmen until 2022.</p><p></p><p>Long story short, I think GT's floor is higher than what some believe it to be. Whether Collins can get back to and maintain the status quo, let alone be the answer we've been waiting for, is TBD. Contrary to what some have suggested, I think this season matters and I believe the coaches are playing to win. But realistically, as George O'Leary shared before the UCF game, our roster still has holes to fill. That is not a product of Collins, nor is it solely the fault of the prior HC. Our talented 2020 recruiting class are true frosh. I think next year is the year to gauge our overall direction (are we back to historical norms). 2022 is the year where any youth/depth/fit/etc. caveats are out the window.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CuseJacket, post: 750659, member: 274"] I think the acumen thing is right with Johnson. However, ultimately it didn't differentiate Johnson's results from Gailey's. Both had the same record vs. FBS over their tenures. Both generally fielded really good teams in one phase of the game and were anemic on the other side of the ball. Hit or miss on ST. Different ways to skin the cat. I was and still am a big CPJ supporter, and I will only say this here because we're family on this board. Outside I will remain an unapologetic supporter. Overall I think CPJ's accomplishments were overall ok. Some have conflated his offensive advantages and clock management into something indicative of the team as a whole. The eyeball test and data says we were really bad on D. That was huge and kept us back, and I'm not sure whether that is taken as a foregone conclusion or fans just like to discuss offense. Qualifying for the ACCCG one year at 5-6 vs. FBS was unremarkable and basically the performance achieved every year during the prior two regimes. We did nothing performance-wise that year out of the ordinary. The extenuating circumstance was that the rest of the division was also unremarkable and 2 teams were DQ'd from the ACCCG. Accounting for that, Johnson's 2 differentiated ACCCG appearances over 11 years is about the same as Gailey's 1 over 6 years. The reason I mention the prior paragraphs is not to add to the coaching debate, but instead to level set on our prospects going forward. I don't think it's a stretch for Collins or some equivalent to achieve the same W/L results by simply making our D competent. And finding a place kicker, which all 3 of the most recent regimes have demonstrated is unreliable and requires a degree of luck. Is that really too difficult to accomplish at GT? I'd say based on prior results and recruiting under Collins thus far, it's not. To be good on D, you need good players. We failed in that regard under the prior regime for a variety of reasons, and I think we're better set up for success going forward (HC experience on that side, funding, more attractive recruiting pitch, etc.). The 2020 recruiting class was a great start, but they won't be traditional upperclassmen until 2022. Long story short, I think GT's floor is higher than what some believe it to be. Whether Collins can get back to and maintain the status quo, let alone be the answer we've been waiting for, is TBD. Contrary to what some have suggested, I think this season matters and I believe the coaches are playing to win. But realistically, as George O'Leary shared before the UCF game, our roster still has holes to fill. That is not a product of Collins, nor is it solely the fault of the prior HC. Our talented 2020 recruiting class are true frosh. I think next year is the year to gauge our overall direction (are we back to historical norms). 2022 is the year where any youth/depth/fit/etc. caveats are out the window. [/QUOTE]
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