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<blockquote data-quote="GTNavyNuke" data-source="post: 98380" data-attributes="member: 322"><p>Is the SEC over rated? Depends what you mean by over rated. The SEC is clearly the best conference top to bottom. We (the ACC) needs to win more out of conference games to get ranked higher.</p><p></p><p>Here's the J Howell rankings for conferences (bottom of <a href="http://www.jhowell.net/cf/cf2014.htm" target="_blank">http://www.jhowell.net/cf/cf2014.htm</a> ):</p><p><strong>SEC .704</strong> (e.g the SEC average team is 70.4% likely to beat the average FBS team on a neutral field)</p><p>Pac 12 .658 </p><p><strong>ACC .621 </strong></p><p>Big 12 .607 </p><p>Big Ten .590</p><p></p><p><em>{From post 77 in <a href="http://gtswarm.com/threads/the-coastal-race.4459/page-4#post-93988}" target="_blank">http://gtswarm.com/threads/the-coastal-race.4459/page-4#post-93988}</a></em></p><p>I think in 2012 and 2013 seasons, the SEC won about 77% of their non-conference non-FCS games. That is a large part of the reason why I think they have such a high Power Ranking by the different computer algorithms. </p><p></p><p>I agree with your point about ESPN being biased, but until the SEC starts to lose more outside the conference, they will be the ESPN darling because it attracts the largest audience. Once the SEC is no longer the darling, ESPN will go zombie on them.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, here's how I got the stat. </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In 2013, the SEC conference record according to J Howell was 111 and 69. That's all games including bowls.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There are 14 SEC teams and all the one I checked played 1 FCS team. So subtract 14 off of the wins (97 ins and 69 losses). (Yeah I'm assuming that the SEC won all it's FCS games!)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The 14 SEC teams each play 8 SEC regular season games a year (at least the ones I checked). So that is 14 teams times 8 games divided by 2 since there was a winner and loser in each game (no ties I hope). That is 56 inner conference games which need to be taken off the total wins and losses.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Plus there is one SEC championship game so take another win and loss off of total win and loss.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Finally assume that the bowls were all SEC versus another conference. I think it's true, so wins and losses aren't adjusted for bowls. If there were SEC on SEC bowls, then you'd have to take one off of both wins ans losses and the % would go up.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Doing that, you end up with 40 wins and 12 losses or 77% winning %.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Similarly for 2012 where there were 111 wins and 68 losses, the % is 78%.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Someone else can go back to 1998!</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GTNavyNuke, post: 98380, member: 322"] Is the SEC over rated? Depends what you mean by over rated. The SEC is clearly the best conference top to bottom. We (the ACC) needs to win more out of conference games to get ranked higher. Here's the J Howell rankings for conferences (bottom of [url]http://www.jhowell.net/cf/cf2014.htm[/url] ): [B]SEC .704[/B] (e.g the SEC average team is 70.4% likely to beat the average FBS team on a neutral field) Pac 12 .658 [B]ACC .621 [/B] Big 12 .607 Big Ten .590 [I]{From post 77 in [url]http://gtswarm.com/threads/the-coastal-race.4459/page-4#post-93988}[/url][/I] I think in 2012 and 2013 seasons, the SEC won about 77% of their non-conference non-FCS games. That is a large part of the reason why I think they have such a high Power Ranking by the different computer algorithms. I agree with your point about ESPN being biased, but until the SEC starts to lose more outside the conference, they will be the ESPN darling because it attracts the largest audience. Once the SEC is no longer the darling, ESPN will go zombie on them. Anyway, here's how I got the stat. [LIST] [*]In 2013, the SEC conference record according to J Howell was 111 and 69. That's all games including bowls. [*]There are 14 SEC teams and all the one I checked played 1 FCS team. So subtract 14 off of the wins (97 ins and 69 losses). (Yeah I'm assuming that the SEC won all it's FCS games!) [*]The 14 SEC teams each play 8 SEC regular season games a year (at least the ones I checked). So that is 14 teams times 8 games divided by 2 since there was a winner and loser in each game (no ties I hope). That is 56 inner conference games which need to be taken off the total wins and losses. [*]Plus there is one SEC championship game so take another win and loss off of total win and loss. [*]Finally assume that the bowls were all SEC versus another conference. I think it's true, so wins and losses aren't adjusted for bowls. If there were SEC on SEC bowls, then you'd have to take one off of both wins ans losses and the % would go up. [*]Doing that, you end up with 40 wins and 12 losses or 77% winning %. [*]Similarly for 2012 where there were 111 wins and 68 losses, the % is 78%. [*]Someone else can go back to 1998! [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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