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<blockquote data-quote="vamosjackets" data-source="post: 235008" data-attributes="member: 216"><p>I believe some schemes are better than others, don't you? Do you not think that Johnson's scheme is better than Chan's? I also believe that some coaches are better than others, don't you? Roof does not understand Tenuta's schemes. Most wouldn't, they're pretty unique. They're a little more prevalent now than they were back in '04 because there have been some copy cats. I'm not saying that as a knock on Roof. It's a matter of what you've been brought up in and have the experience in running. Dabo Swinney might "understand" Johnson's scheme, but he doesn't understand it like Johnson does and all of the nuances of it, just like a podiatrist might "understand" the work of a gynecologist, but he wouldn't understand it in such a way as to be truly successful at it. Johnson would not be successful running some other scheme because he doesn't have that true understanding of them that only comes from being immersed in it. Tenuta wouldn't be successful running Roof's scheme for the same reason. Roof's scheme is what it is because it's in his DNA, it's what he knows and has experienced. I'm not saying it isn't sound. It probably is "sound". I'm saying, what gives our athletes the best chance at success? All it takes is looking at the numbers to know the answer. Top 30 vs Bottom 40? Easy answer. A look at the game film confirms it. Which do you think it's easier to play against as an offensive player? One where the guys are lined up in the exact formation you know they're going to play at the snap or one where you can't tell what they're going to do at the snap? Roof's scheme might work better at a factory, and you could say the same about Chan's scheme. You can't say that Roof is a better recruiter and then say he has worse personnel than Tenuta had - that's arguing out of both sides of your mouth. Roof doesn't have worse personnel than Tenuta according to the recruiting rankings. He's had some major horses on that side of the ball, and we've still been bad (so far). If you want to talk about inconsistency of even successful coaches, then you're just going to go around in circles, because no coach wins them all. It's a matter of the track record and overall body of work. It's kind of like this: we think Johnson's scheme and how well he's able to coach it is an advantage for us because it's harder to defend than more conventional schemes. So, why do we think a conventional scheme is going to work on the other side of the ball???? Why do we think we're going to be better defensively than our competition when we're running the same thing they are while they have all of the recruiting advantages? That was CPJ's argument to DRad that got him hired. And, there is no flaw in that argument.</p><p></p><p>I do think Roof has a LOT of value as a coach, I really do, but I don't think that value is in scheme. I really like Roof and would LOVE for him to succeed here. I can be easily convinced, like AE87 said - it's about production - get us in the top 40 this year, and I'm there. I am not against him. I have my doubts as to whether he can do it due to the scheme stuff I talked about earlier, but if he does, I'll gladly jump to the other side of this discussion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vamosjackets, post: 235008, member: 216"] I believe some schemes are better than others, don't you? Do you not think that Johnson's scheme is better than Chan's? I also believe that some coaches are better than others, don't you? Roof does not understand Tenuta's schemes. Most wouldn't, they're pretty unique. They're a little more prevalent now than they were back in '04 because there have been some copy cats. I'm not saying that as a knock on Roof. It's a matter of what you've been brought up in and have the experience in running. Dabo Swinney might "understand" Johnson's scheme, but he doesn't understand it like Johnson does and all of the nuances of it, just like a podiatrist might "understand" the work of a gynecologist, but he wouldn't understand it in such a way as to be truly successful at it. Johnson would not be successful running some other scheme because he doesn't have that true understanding of them that only comes from being immersed in it. Tenuta wouldn't be successful running Roof's scheme for the same reason. Roof's scheme is what it is because it's in his DNA, it's what he knows and has experienced. I'm not saying it isn't sound. It probably is "sound". I'm saying, what gives our athletes the best chance at success? All it takes is looking at the numbers to know the answer. Top 30 vs Bottom 40? Easy answer. A look at the game film confirms it. Which do you think it's easier to play against as an offensive player? One where the guys are lined up in the exact formation you know they're going to play at the snap or one where you can't tell what they're going to do at the snap? Roof's scheme might work better at a factory, and you could say the same about Chan's scheme. You can't say that Roof is a better recruiter and then say he has worse personnel than Tenuta had - that's arguing out of both sides of your mouth. Roof doesn't have worse personnel than Tenuta according to the recruiting rankings. He's had some major horses on that side of the ball, and we've still been bad (so far). If you want to talk about inconsistency of even successful coaches, then you're just going to go around in circles, because no coach wins them all. It's a matter of the track record and overall body of work. It's kind of like this: we think Johnson's scheme and how well he's able to coach it is an advantage for us because it's harder to defend than more conventional schemes. So, why do we think a conventional scheme is going to work on the other side of the ball???? Why do we think we're going to be better defensively than our competition when we're running the same thing they are while they have all of the recruiting advantages? That was CPJ's argument to DRad that got him hired. And, there is no flaw in that argument. I do think Roof has a LOT of value as a coach, I really do, but I don't think that value is in scheme. I really like Roof and would LOVE for him to succeed here. I can be easily convinced, like AE87 said - it's about production - get us in the top 40 this year, and I'm there. I am not against him. I have my doubts as to whether he can do it due to the scheme stuff I talked about earlier, but if he does, I'll gladly jump to the other side of this discussion. [/QUOTE]
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