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<blockquote data-quote="jojatk" data-source="post: 916760" data-attributes="member: 2627"><p>or perhaps you just haven’t made compelling arguments. And no, nobody thinks Collins was single-handedly responsible though most would agree he made things hard for everyone to varying degrees and your arguments against that aren’t convincing people because that’s not what they believe.</p><p></p><p>Also the contention that that doesn’t happen in business is ludicrous beyond belief. It happens every day in business where someone isn’t terribly effective at their current role and get put into a different role, sometimes management, and they thrive. And other times they fail.</p><p></p><p>Considering I am fine with whatever decision is made I feel like I can be pretty objective. So here’s a little different analogy… there was a guy who was a race car driver. He was OK. Even some would say pretty good at one level. He wasn’t great. He changed roles within the same field and became a crew chief. Good to have knowledge of what the driver has to do but didn’t have to be a great driver to be a great crew chief. Since he became a crew chief he won multiple championships at one of the highest levels of motor racing. Key proved elsewhere that he has some OL coaching skills. For whatever reason it didn’t work out here. We are hearing that there was some contention with his boss on how to do his job but let’s just say even with that he still shoulders a lot of the blame. Not dodging that at all. But he has a clue what coaching is about at the position level. Now he’s in a position that requires less direct position coaching knowledge and so far he has done reasonably well with the same team that the other guy failed most spectacularly with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jojatk, post: 916760, member: 2627"] or perhaps you just haven’t made compelling arguments. And no, nobody thinks Collins was single-handedly responsible though most would agree he made things hard for everyone to varying degrees and your arguments against that aren’t convincing people because that’s not what they believe. Also the contention that that doesn’t happen in business is ludicrous beyond belief. It happens every day in business where someone isn’t terribly effective at their current role and get put into a different role, sometimes management, and they thrive. And other times they fail. Considering I am fine with whatever decision is made I feel like I can be pretty objective. So here’s a little different analogy… there was a guy who was a race car driver. He was OK. Even some would say pretty good at one level. He wasn’t great. He changed roles within the same field and became a crew chief. Good to have knowledge of what the driver has to do but didn’t have to be a great driver to be a great crew chief. Since he became a crew chief he won multiple championships at one of the highest levels of motor racing. Key proved elsewhere that he has some OL coaching skills. For whatever reason it didn’t work out here. We are hearing that there was some contention with his boss on how to do his job but let’s just say even with that he still shoulders a lot of the blame. Not dodging that at all. But he has a clue what coaching is about at the position level. Now he’s in a position that requires less direct position coaching knowledge and so far he has done reasonably well with the same team that the other guy failed most spectacularly with. [/QUOTE]
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