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<blockquote data-quote="lv20gt" data-source="post: 911085" data-attributes="member: 2299"><p>Bowden wasn't fired in 2008. He was told he wasn't going to be retained at the end of the year and chose to step down early instead. That's the first difference, and a major one comparing to getting the AD fired mid year as well. </p><p></p><p>The second difference is, as you pointed out, Clemson wasn't horrible under Bowden. They likely weren't going to get where they wanted to go, but there was enough success to believe that the entire staff wasn't a problem and that a change in leadership would slightly change the course from being an 8-9 team to a 10-11 win team. That's why it made more sense to promote from within because they weren't promoting from a horrible staff. They also promoted a WR coach who had success coaching WRs who was also a very highly thought of recruiter as well. Key was the position coach of probably the worst group we've had over the past 4 years. </p><p></p><p>I know people like to pretend that Key was locked in a basement the last 3 years by Collins and had nothing to do with how horrible we've been the past 4 years but it's absurd. People on this site also just flat out make crap up. We've looked every bit as bad the past three weeks coming out of the bye week as we did the past 3 years and anyone who view the VT game as a feather in Key's cap is kidding themselves. Collins wasn't the only problem like people want to believe. The rest of the staff is also to blame including Key, probably more so than most. Key isn't the baby in the bathwater. There is no baby, and key is a big reason the bowl is dirty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lv20gt, post: 911085, member: 2299"] Bowden wasn't fired in 2008. He was told he wasn't going to be retained at the end of the year and chose to step down early instead. That's the first difference, and a major one comparing to getting the AD fired mid year as well. The second difference is, as you pointed out, Clemson wasn't horrible under Bowden. They likely weren't going to get where they wanted to go, but there was enough success to believe that the entire staff wasn't a problem and that a change in leadership would slightly change the course from being an 8-9 team to a 10-11 win team. That's why it made more sense to promote from within because they weren't promoting from a horrible staff. They also promoted a WR coach who had success coaching WRs who was also a very highly thought of recruiter as well. Key was the position coach of probably the worst group we've had over the past 4 years. I know people like to pretend that Key was locked in a basement the last 3 years by Collins and had nothing to do with how horrible we've been the past 4 years but it's absurd. People on this site also just flat out make crap up. We've looked every bit as bad the past three weeks coming out of the bye week as we did the past 3 years and anyone who view the VT game as a feather in Key's cap is kidding themselves. Collins wasn't the only problem like people want to believe. The rest of the staff is also to blame including Key, probably more so than most. Key isn't the baby in the bathwater. There is no baby, and key is a big reason the bowl is dirty. [/QUOTE]
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