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<blockquote data-quote="slugboy" data-source="post: 909039" data-attributes="member: 282"><p>I don’t know if we’ll announce a hire tomorrow or a month from tomorrow, so it makes sense that we’ll pick our candidates and argue to our tastes. I like that some of y’all are going a little deeper on this.</p><p></p><p>There’s only so much room we can fit in a post, so I can’t reply to every post I thought was worth a reply.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are a few coaches from outside the South who have done well down here. I think Leipold is as close to a can’t-miss as I can see, but I think he’d have an easier fit in the midwest.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, Saban is not a native southern guy at all, and he did great at LSU and Alabama. He’s never tried to fit in—he’s just been himself and it’s worked. So, maybe I’m overrating cultural aspects.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Number 5 is a lot to hope for. And we have to do more than open the doors—we gotta get players to come through.</p><p></p><p>It’s still a question mark to me whether being a solid position coach and a great recruiter would result in being a solid HC. I think it’s usually a mistake to say someone is just like Collins because they are a recruiter, but I’d like to know that someone can manage a team of assistants and shows the skills to run a major program. I don’t think the high school record is enough.</p><p></p><p>I also am looking for someone who builds systems that work after they’re gone. If we’re relying on his personality, we lose that when he moves on or retires.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is good info that I didn’t have. Usually, when I see this in high school teams, it means that there were a group of players who grew up their junior and senior years. Teams like Buford that built ongoing success are the ones that I look at for building a program.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don’t think the affordability is the big hurdle. I think we’re willing to spend for a big coach. Chadwell recruits Atlanta already, so that’s a plus. </p><p></p><p>We’ve talked a lot about recruiting vs scheme, but you can have recruiting AND scheme. </p><p></p><p>If we just focus on recruiting, then we do need to look at the last four years. We’ve been using the transfer portal to bring players to our OL and it hasn’t worked. Some of them were on NFL draft scouting lists before they came here. For four years, multiple people here have been saying you can’t build an offensive line in one year. I also think we’ve put our OL athletes in a bad position, because if you keep changing out all the parts of your OL and keep getting the same results, I have to wonder if it’s the parts. </p><p></p><p>BUT, if you do think it’s the parts, how many years of recruiting is it going to take? The first year, we usually don’t expect a good class because of the “transition”. The second year, you get some honeymoon effect where you can recruit based on newness. If you haven’t had a good season by the third year, players are wondering if they want to go to your school and lose. We saw that here. </p><p></p><p>If that’s right, we need a coach to come here and have a pretty good first year, and a really good second year. </p><p></p><p>We have people arguing that we have talent, and we have people arguing that we don’t have talent. If we’re going to fix that on a recruiting-first strategy, please let me know how that works when it hasn’t worked for the last 4 years. </p><p></p><p>If it’s Deion, and he brings in 6 OL and a couple of good TEs through the transfer portal, how do they all gel after just one Spring practice? If they can, that seems like a coaching achievement that we haven’t pulled off for the last four years (which means we’re back to development and coaching discipline)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slugboy, post: 909039, member: 282"] I don’t know if we’ll announce a hire tomorrow or a month from tomorrow, so it makes sense that we’ll pick our candidates and argue to our tastes. I like that some of y’all are going a little deeper on this. There’s only so much room we can fit in a post, so I can’t reply to every post I thought was worth a reply. There are a few coaches from outside the South who have done well down here. I think Leipold is as close to a can’t-miss as I can see, but I think he’d have an easier fit in the midwest. On the other hand, Saban is not a native southern guy at all, and he did great at LSU and Alabama. He’s never tried to fit in—he’s just been himself and it’s worked. So, maybe I’m overrating cultural aspects. Number 5 is a lot to hope for. And we have to do more than open the doors—we gotta get players to come through. It’s still a question mark to me whether being a solid position coach and a great recruiter would result in being a solid HC. I think it’s usually a mistake to say someone is just like Collins because they are a recruiter, but I’d like to know that someone can manage a team of assistants and shows the skills to run a major program. I don’t think the high school record is enough. I also am looking for someone who builds systems that work after they’re gone. If we’re relying on his personality, we lose that when he moves on or retires. This is good info that I didn’t have. Usually, when I see this in high school teams, it means that there were a group of players who grew up their junior and senior years. Teams like Buford that built ongoing success are the ones that I look at for building a program. I don’t think the affordability is the big hurdle. I think we’re willing to spend for a big coach. Chadwell recruits Atlanta already, so that’s a plus. We’ve talked a lot about recruiting vs scheme, but you can have recruiting AND scheme. If we just focus on recruiting, then we do need to look at the last four years. We’ve been using the transfer portal to bring players to our OL and it hasn’t worked. Some of them were on NFL draft scouting lists before they came here. For four years, multiple people here have been saying you can’t build an offensive line in one year. I also think we’ve put our OL athletes in a bad position, because if you keep changing out all the parts of your OL and keep getting the same results, I have to wonder if it’s the parts. BUT, if you do think it’s the parts, how many years of recruiting is it going to take? The first year, we usually don’t expect a good class because of the “transition”. The second year, you get some honeymoon effect where you can recruit based on newness. If you haven’t had a good season by the third year, players are wondering if they want to go to your school and lose. We saw that here. If that’s right, we need a coach to come here and have a pretty good first year, and a really good second year. We have people arguing that we have talent, and we have people arguing that we don’t have talent. If we’re going to fix that on a recruiting-first strategy, please let me know how that works when it hasn’t worked for the last 4 years. If it’s Deion, and he brings in 6 OL and a couple of good TEs through the transfer portal, how do they all gel after just one Spring practice? If they can, that seems like a coaching achievement that we haven’t pulled off for the last four years (which means we’re back to development and coaching discipline) [/QUOTE]
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