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<blockquote data-quote="takethepoints" data-source="post: 900164" data-attributes="member: 265"><p>1. We've done this <em>once</em> - in 2007 - in the last 30 years. Oth, we've had 4 4 stars at least twice - 2010 and 2020 - in the last 10 years. (Again, these are 247 ratings.) It's feasible to expect we might be able to do that consistently with the right coaches. That'd put us right about where VT is usually.</p><p></p><p>2. Actually, you <em>did</em> say just that. And, believe it, Paul wanted every 5 and 4 star in the book. And got turned down by almost all of them. We got a fair number of 4 star recruits on D and the occasional one of O - JT, for example - and made a very successful program out of our classes.</p><p></p><p>3. I get this. But I think you haven't looked hard enough at the recruiting efforts of the coaches mentioned. I'll leave out Paul because his was a system offense, but there are plenty of examples of how his eye was better then the raters thought. O'Leary was a great recruiter for us and leveraged his connections up north to deliver a ton of good athletes. He combined this with a good eye for talent. Shawn Jones was no better then a mid-level player to others and Kelly Campbell's only college offer came from Tech. Chan had a good eye too; that's why his recruits consistently outperformed their ratings. And he did pull in Calvin.</p><p></p><p>4. I agree but not for the same reasons. I want a young guy because we might be able to afford him, though if we can tempt Clawson, he's the man. And, btw, that's the way Paul handled recruiting. One difference: he talked to the entire family when he was making his final pitch. This almost always meant that the parental units were on Tech's side when the decision was made.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takethepoints, post: 900164, member: 265"] 1. We've done this [I]once[/I] - in 2007 - in the last 30 years. Oth, we've had 4 4 stars at least twice - 2010 and 2020 - in the last 10 years. (Again, these are 247 ratings.) It's feasible to expect we might be able to do that consistently with the right coaches. That'd put us right about where VT is usually. 2. Actually, you [I]did[/I] say just that. And, believe it, Paul wanted every 5 and 4 star in the book. And got turned down by almost all of them. We got a fair number of 4 star recruits on D and the occasional one of O - JT, for example - and made a very successful program out of our classes. 3. I get this. But I think you haven't looked hard enough at the recruiting efforts of the coaches mentioned. I'll leave out Paul because his was a system offense, but there are plenty of examples of how his eye was better then the raters thought. O'Leary was a great recruiter for us and leveraged his connections up north to deliver a ton of good athletes. He combined this with a good eye for talent. Shawn Jones was no better then a mid-level player to others and Kelly Campbell's only college offer came from Tech. Chan had a good eye too; that's why his recruits consistently outperformed their ratings. And he did pull in Calvin. 4. I agree but not for the same reasons. I want a young guy because we might be able to afford him, though if we can tempt Clawson, he's the man. And, btw, that's the way Paul handled recruiting. One difference: he talked to the entire family when he was making his final pitch. This almost always meant that the parental units were on Tech's side when the decision was made. [/QUOTE]
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