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<blockquote data-quote="RonJohn" data-source="post: 967388" data-attributes="member: 2426"><p>The rule is that the ball carrier is down when he begins a FEET-FIRST slide. The fake and simulate was added after the Kenny Picket faked a slide to gain more yards, so that the runner doesn't have to actually slide FEET-FIRST, he only has to look like he is intending to slide FEET-FIRST.</p><p></p><p>I don't understand what the point you are trying to make is. There are several pictures that show that in this case, the receiver was not sliding FEET-FIRST. The sliding, faking, simulating, etc does not apply to him because he was not slideing FEET-FIRST, which is a requirement of the rule. I think he stumbled, but it doesn't matter if he stumbled, fell, slid or whatever, because his body was still ahead of his feet. You are wrong that if a runner is falling forward that there will be a penalty flag. There have been several cases this year in which Haynes King actually did slide FEET-FIRST, was still hit, and there was no flag thrown. I think in those instances, the refs believed that the defenders did pull up and that some contact was inevitable when King started sliding. There is no situation in which a flag would be thrown if a runner is still ahead of his feet, and thus potentially gaining yards and is hit. (excepting hits that are already penalties such as targeting)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RonJohn, post: 967388, member: 2426"] The rule is that the ball carrier is down when he begins a FEET-FIRST slide. The fake and simulate was added after the Kenny Picket faked a slide to gain more yards, so that the runner doesn't have to actually slide FEET-FIRST, he only has to look like he is intending to slide FEET-FIRST. I don't understand what the point you are trying to make is. There are several pictures that show that in this case, the receiver was not sliding FEET-FIRST. The sliding, faking, simulating, etc does not apply to him because he was not slideing FEET-FIRST, which is a requirement of the rule. I think he stumbled, but it doesn't matter if he stumbled, fell, slid or whatever, because his body was still ahead of his feet. You are wrong that if a runner is falling forward that there will be a penalty flag. There have been several cases this year in which Haynes King actually did slide FEET-FIRST, was still hit, and there was no flag thrown. I think in those instances, the refs believed that the defenders did pull up and that some contact was inevitable when King started sliding. There is no situation in which a flag would be thrown if a runner is still ahead of his feet, and thus potentially gaining yards and is hit. (excepting hits that are already penalties such as targeting) [/QUOTE]
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