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<blockquote data-quote="bke1984" data-source="post: 180659" data-attributes="member: 932"><p>I agree with some of this...</p><p></p><p>The players need to execute better, and some of that responsibility does lie on the coaches...but there's very little that they can do to correct this once the game starts. Repeating the same thing that fails 10 times in the game and expecting different results is just crazy. I don't think many teams just magically start executing better during the middle of a game. That sort of thing may change from week to week, but not from play to play. I guess CPJ's point is that if they don't get reps they won't get it right, but at some point you gotta say, "hey, we need to win this game, and this play ain't gonna work...let's try a different play and work on this later."</p><p></p><p>So I know I sound like a broken record here, but we 100% need a short passing game to help out when we can't get the run going. I have felt this way since 2008, but it's easy to dismiss when the offense looks as efficient as it did at the end of last year. We've seen flashes every once in a while (screens to Dwyer, flat passes to Skov, smoke routes to Bebe and Smelter), but it seems like it disappears from our arsenal at times. Our deep passes work very well when we are able to run the ball because it draws up the safeties and the corners and we can play action over the top. When we aren't able to run the ball we just have long 7-step drops where we throw jump balls. It works OK when we have receivers that are NFL ready, but not so well when we have younger, less experienced guys out there. What makes it even worse is when our pass protection is bad. Right now opposing defenses are blitzing us hard on third and long and putting a ton of pressure on Justin. He has no time to complete these intermediate to long passes, but he could easily get the ball out quickly to an A back in the flats, a B back on a swing, or a receiver on a drag or a slant...and if he connected, those guys would be in space with a chance to make a play. I'm not at all saying we need to throw the ball 20+ times a game...I just think on the 10-15 times we throw, sometimes it would help us drive if we could connect on shorter routes. Never know...it might cause the defense to change their approach and <strong>open back up the run.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>I disagree with what you're saying about Tenuta's defenses. That guy was a great D coordinator and we flat out shut down some very good teams when he was here with a ton of NFL talent: Auburn twice, Notre Dame twice (#3 one of those times), #3 Miami, Georgia, VT. We didn't win several of the games I'm thinking of, but it's because we couldn't score more than 14 points most of the time.</p><p></p><p>The offense will get better this year and we will probably win some more football games, but this is definitely a disappointing start. This loss put us in a pretty big hole and now the team has to face some adversity. Let's see how they respond.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bke1984, post: 180659, member: 932"] I agree with some of this... The players need to execute better, and some of that responsibility does lie on the coaches...but there's very little that they can do to correct this once the game starts. Repeating the same thing that fails 10 times in the game and expecting different results is just crazy. I don't think many teams just magically start executing better during the middle of a game. That sort of thing may change from week to week, but not from play to play. I guess CPJ's point is that if they don't get reps they won't get it right, but at some point you gotta say, "hey, we need to win this game, and this play ain't gonna work...let's try a different play and work on this later." So I know I sound like a broken record here, but we 100% need a short passing game to help out when we can't get the run going. I have felt this way since 2008, but it's easy to dismiss when the offense looks as efficient as it did at the end of last year. We've seen flashes every once in a while (screens to Dwyer, flat passes to Skov, smoke routes to Bebe and Smelter), but it seems like it disappears from our arsenal at times. Our deep passes work very well when we are able to run the ball because it draws up the safeties and the corners and we can play action over the top. When we aren't able to run the ball we just have long 7-step drops where we throw jump balls. It works OK when we have receivers that are NFL ready, but not so well when we have younger, less experienced guys out there. What makes it even worse is when our pass protection is bad. Right now opposing defenses are blitzing us hard on third and long and putting a ton of pressure on Justin. He has no time to complete these intermediate to long passes, but he could easily get the ball out quickly to an A back in the flats, a B back on a swing, or a receiver on a drag or a slant...and if he connected, those guys would be in space with a chance to make a play. I'm not at all saying we need to throw the ball 20+ times a game...I just think on the 10-15 times we throw, sometimes it would help us drive if we could connect on shorter routes. Never know...it might cause the defense to change their approach and [B]open back up the run. [/B] I disagree with what you're saying about Tenuta's defenses. That guy was a great D coordinator and we flat out shut down some very good teams when he was here with a ton of NFL talent: Auburn twice, Notre Dame twice (#3 one of those times), #3 Miami, Georgia, VT. We didn't win several of the games I'm thinking of, but it's because we couldn't score more than 14 points most of the time. The offense will get better this year and we will probably win some more football games, but this is definitely a disappointing start. This loss put us in a pretty big hole and now the team has to face some adversity. Let's see how they respond. [/QUOTE]
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