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<blockquote data-quote="IEEEWreck" data-source="post: 65184" data-attributes="member: 617"><p>Those guys (and ladies) bodies are built for a combination of running and climbing. I was at the Audubon Zoo in NOLA yesterday (I'm on my honeymoon) and was struck by the orangutans they have. Those monkey's arms are built like a runner's calves- incredible definition and substantial mass without being giant like Beefcake McLargehuge bodybuilder. There's something to that. Rockclimbers and swimmers have great upper body strength and will outbench dudes with chest circumferences twice their own. But lifting 300 lbs once doesn't matter to them. They need to lift over and over again for an hour or more.</p><p></p><p>There's something to the F=MA equation part, but it's more than just more weight. The weight is in a rather poor place to be useful if you think about players like opposing levers. Even if you're a ridiculous Broseph Onlybench, we're evolved to put our weight on our legs just like the orangutan is evolved to put weight on its arms. Sheer amount of butt and thighs makes the arms and pecs an afterthought in any application of human power. Now, all that to say 'why care about benching?' isn't a bad question, but it does have at least two good answers:</p><p></p><p>1. It's the last mile of the problem. Sometimes, the final 5% of force is the difference maker.</p><p></p><p>2. It's closest to the application of force, and so almost always available. The legs and butt are far heavier hitters, but they need your legs, spine, and arms to form a lever for them to act. Get pushed off axis or caught in bad form and you can't access your leg strength. The arms are right next to the body they interact with, applying force. Will it lose to a well positioned opponent every time? Yes. Can marginal cases and 3/4 of a second longer losing fights win games? Absolutely.</p><p></p><p>Edit: I bet you that football players have an intuitive grasp of statics that the rest of the class would envy. What the hell is a wrench? A football player knows by feeling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IEEEWreck, post: 65184, member: 617"] Those guys (and ladies) bodies are built for a combination of running and climbing. I was at the Audubon Zoo in NOLA yesterday (I'm on my honeymoon) and was struck by the orangutans they have. Those monkey's arms are built like a runner's calves- incredible definition and substantial mass without being giant like Beefcake McLargehuge bodybuilder. There's something to that. Rockclimbers and swimmers have great upper body strength and will outbench dudes with chest circumferences twice their own. But lifting 300 lbs once doesn't matter to them. They need to lift over and over again for an hour or more. There's something to the F=MA equation part, but it's more than just more weight. The weight is in a rather poor place to be useful if you think about players like opposing levers. Even if you're a ridiculous Broseph Onlybench, we're evolved to put our weight on our legs just like the orangutan is evolved to put weight on its arms. Sheer amount of butt and thighs makes the arms and pecs an afterthought in any application of human power. Now, all that to say 'why care about benching?' isn't a bad question, but it does have at least two good answers: 1. It's the last mile of the problem. Sometimes, the final 5% of force is the difference maker. 2. It's closest to the application of force, and so almost always available. The legs and butt are far heavier hitters, but they need your legs, spine, and arms to form a lever for them to act. Get pushed off axis or caught in bad form and you can't access your leg strength. The arms are right next to the body they interact with, applying force. Will it lose to a well positioned opponent every time? Yes. Can marginal cases and 3/4 of a second longer losing fights win games? Absolutely. Edit: I bet you that football players have an intuitive grasp of statics that the rest of the class would envy. What the hell is a wrench? A football player knows by feeling. [/QUOTE]
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