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<blockquote data-quote="LibertyTurns" data-source="post: 696769" data-attributes="member: 789"><p>[USER=360]@Techster[/USER] Great question on capital gains.</p><p></p><p>Multiple separate scenarios here:</p><p></p><p>a. ROTH accounts- not a consideration at all</p><p>b. Non-ROTH retirement accounts- Maybe there’s someone who disagrees but I’ll pay my tax when it gets distributed so I don’t care</p><p>c. Personal accounts- short vs long term. Obviously if you’re in 39.5% bracket and you’re taking a sizable short term gain well maybe you wait longer until punting.</p><p></p><p>Long term gains- guessing most on here are in either 15% or 20% bracket.</p><p></p><p>Let’s say you purchased 1k shares at $100, initial investment $100k. Share appreciate to $130 and you bail. You owe max 20% of $30k or $6k to the blood sucking government bastards, so you’re effectively left with $124k at sale.</p><p></p><p>Prices retreat back to $100/share. You now buy $124k of shares and get 1240 shares where you had 1000 before. Price goes back up to $130. You now have approx $167k invested. You just turned a 27% profit short term.</p><p></p><p>History says these retracement a on average go up 12% from where you departed in 6mos-1yr after. You now have $180k or a 38% bump as opposed to $145 and a 12% bump. </p><p></p><p>For $6k you amassed an additional $35k in assets.</p><p></p><p>That’s my cut. Apologize if I made a math error anywhere as I’m texting while listening to a nugget trying his best to make a pitch for money. Kid’s trying and has high potential but he’s getting mutilated. He’ll get what he wants but this training exercise is going to serve him well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LibertyTurns, post: 696769, member: 789"] [USER=360]@Techster[/USER] Great question on capital gains. Multiple separate scenarios here: a. ROTH accounts- not a consideration at all b. Non-ROTH retirement accounts- Maybe there’s someone who disagrees but I’ll pay my tax when it gets distributed so I don’t care c. Personal accounts- short vs long term. Obviously if you’re in 39.5% bracket and you’re taking a sizable short term gain well maybe you wait longer until punting. Long term gains- guessing most on here are in either 15% or 20% bracket. Let’s say you purchased 1k shares at $100, initial investment $100k. Share appreciate to $130 and you bail. You owe max 20% of $30k or $6k to the blood sucking government bastards, so you’re effectively left with $124k at sale. Prices retreat back to $100/share. You now buy $124k of shares and get 1240 shares where you had 1000 before. Price goes back up to $130. You now have approx $167k invested. You just turned a 27% profit short term. History says these retracement a on average go up 12% from where you departed in 6mos-1yr after. You now have $180k or a 38% bump as opposed to $145 and a 12% bump. For $6k you amassed an additional $35k in assets. That’s my cut. Apologize if I made a math error anywhere as I’m texting while listening to a nugget trying his best to make a pitch for money. Kid’s trying and has high potential but he’s getting mutilated. He’ll get what he wants but this training exercise is going to serve him well. [/QUOTE]
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