First CFP Rankings

[LT 1967]

Is there a path for two ACC teams to get in the CFP. Alabama (6-2) at #11?

Here are the full College Football Playoff rankings:

1 Oregon (9-0)

2 Ohio State (7-1)

3 Georgia (7-1)

4 Miami (9-0)

5 Texas (7-1)

6 Penn State (7-1)

7 Tennessee (7-1)

8 Indiana (9-0)

9 BYU (8-0)

10 Notre Dame (7-1)

11 Alabama (6-2)

12 Boise State (7-1)

13 SMU (8-1)

14 Texas A&M (7-2)

15 LSU (6-2)

16 Ole Miss (7-2)

17 Iowa State (7-1)

18 Pittsburgh (7-1)

19 Kansas State (7-2)

20 Colorado (6-2)

21 Washington State (7-1)

22 Louisville (6-3)

23 Clemson (6-2)

24 Missouri (6-2)

25 Army (8-0)

 

[King2b]

Can't quite put my finger what is common in the two loss teams in the top 15? I'm sure it's correlation not causation.

 

[AugustaSwarm]

Can't quite put my finger what is common in the two loss teams in the top 15? I'm sure it's correlation not causation.

They both use Crimson as a primary color. See, it's not just the fonts here that are obsessed with uniforms!

 

[GTJackets]

They both use Crimson as a primary color. See, it's not just the fonts here that are obsessed with uniforms!

That theory flies until you realize there are three 2-loss teams in the top 15.

Less time on colors, more time on numbers.

 

[FightWinDrink]

The only path for 2 acc teams was for SMU Clemson and Miami to all win out so we would have 11-1 SMU sitting idle championship game weekend. Now it’ll just be loser of Miami vs SMU eliminated. Was always very likely to be 4 SEC and 4 Big 10 teams which is the number of auto bids both those conferences are trying to demand in previous statements

 

[roadkill]

The only path for 2 acc teams was for SMU Clemson and Miami to all win out so we would have 11-1 SMU sitting idle championship game weekend. Now it’ll just be loser of Miami vs SMU eliminated. Was always very likely to be 4 SEC and 4 Big 10 teams which is the number of auto bids both those conferences are trying to demand in previous statements

If SMU @ #13 and Miami @ #4 both win out in the regular season (likely at this point), I would not expect their rankings to change much. SMU's could even move up slightly since many of the top SEC teams still have to play each other, thus several will have an additional loss. But let's assume the committee keeps things as they are during the regular season.

So a situation could happen if SMU beats undefeated and 4th-ranked Miami in the ACC Championship. In that case, SMU gets in via auto-bid, and I don't see a 1-loss Miami dropping more than 8 ranks unless they suffer a 50-0 type beat-down by SMU (extremely unlikely). So Miami's also in.

 

[iceeater1969]

If SMU @ #13 and Miami @ #4 both win out in the regular season (likely at this point), I would not expect their rankings to change much. SMU's could even move up slightly since many of the top SEC teams still have to play each other, thus several will have an additional loss. But let's assume the committee keeps things as they are during the regular season.

So a situation could happen if SMU beats undefeated and 4th-ranked Miami in the ACC Championship. In that case, SMU gets in via auto-bid, and I don't see a 1-loss Miami dropping more than 8 ranks unless they suffer a 50-0 type beat-down by SMU (extremely unlikely). So Miami's also in.

Why is miami ONLY 11 point favorite verses gt? Other teams have had equal or a higher spread.

Imo, they are undiciplined, erratic and run on big plays by high quality players. Plus thier defense is not that good.


Also imo , haynes will play and we know we have open up mid level passing so he doesn't have to run for gash yards. Betting knows we can keep it close.

By end of year ACC will be lucky to get 1 in cfp.

 

[GTHomer]

Don't forget that the school to our East must play Tennessee. The loser will have 2 losses. It will be 'challenging' to have multiple 2 loss teams in the top 12 from a single conference.

 

[CEB]

Don't forget that the school to our East must play Tennessee. The loser will have 2 losses. It will be 'challenging' to have multiple 2 loss teams in the top 12 from a single conference.

CFP Selection Committee:

 

[bke1984]

By end of year ACC will be lucky to get 1 in cfp.

I think everyone is forgetting that the top four ranked conference champs are in no matter what EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT IN THE TOP 12. Right now up there you've got B1G, SEC, ACC, Big 12, and Mountain West. Even if Boise wins out I doubt they move up above 12. Their one loss is to Oregon (good), but they will have ZERO good wins. Even an ACC champ with 2 losses will likely be one spot above them at 11-2...especially with two losses to ranked teams and wins against ranked teams.

 

[CEB]

I think everyone is forgetting that the top four FIVE ranked conference champs are in no matter what EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT IN THE TOP 12. Right now up there you've got B1G, SEC, ACC, Big 12, and Mountain West. Even if Boise wins out I doubt they move up above 12. Their one loss is to Oregon (good), but they will have ZERO good wins. Even an ACC champ with 2 losses will likely be one spot above them at 11-2...especially with two losses to ranked teams and wins against ranked teams.

Slight correction, but otherwise yes, point taken. The top four conf champs receive a top four seeding and first round bye, but the top five get in.

ETA - theoretically, a P4 champ CAN be left out. It’s a long shot but in a year like this where Boise St and Army could both be decently ranked undefeated G5 champs, an upset in a ACC or B12championship game might be interesting.

 

[roadkill]

Slight correction, but otherwise yes, point taken. The top four conf champs receive a top four seeding and first round bye, but the top five get in.

This is correct.

For the ACC to miss out completely, it would take something like all it's currently ranked teams (Miami, SMU, Pitt, L'ville, Clemson) to lose most of their remaining games. I can't see that happening.

 

[bke1984]

Slight correction, but otherwise yes, point taken. The top four conf champs receive a top four seeding and first round bye, but the top five get in.

ETA - theoretically, a P4 champ CAN be left out. It’s a long shot but in a year like this where Boise St and Army could both be decently ranked undefeated G5 champs, an upset in a ACC or B12championship game might be interesting.

Good correction - I thought it was four. But now that means power four conference champs are virtually guaranteed to be in...especially given that the top two teams in the ACC play for the championship. I don't see any way that Clemson, Miami, or SMU gets left out as the ACC Champ...even with 2 losses.

 

[FightWinDrink]

If SMU @ #13 and Miami @ #4 both win out in the regular season (likely at this point), I would not expect their rankings to change much. SMU's could even move up slightly since many of the top SEC teams still have to play each other, thus several will have an additional loss. But let's assume the committee keeps things as they are during the regular season.

So a situation could happen if SMU beats undefeated and 4th-ranked Miami in the ACC Championship. In that case, SMU gets in via auto-bid, and I don't see a 1-loss Miami dropping more than 8 ranks unless they suffer a 50-0 type beat-down by SMU (extremely unlikely). So Miami's also in.

You forget they will hammer home the eye test of Miami scraping by every opponent. The literal front page of espn right now is about the SEC being underrated despite having 4 playoff teams atm

CFP, conference race outlook with one month to go: Where Texas, Colorado, Miami stand

Where do the conference favorites, long shots and CFP hopefuls stand? We break down the projections.

www.espn.com

If you don't have ESPN+ the article basically states that if we used the BCS formula most of the SEC teams should be ranked 1-2 spots higher and that the committee is penalizing the SEC teams for having worse records because they have to play each other. "Your pure record seems to matter. That means bad things for some SEC teams right now"

 

[Thwg777]

The $EC will really benefit from cannibalism this season. I expect Ole Miss to beat (sic)ga Saturday.

 

[gtee91]

The $EC will really benefit from cannibalism this season. I expect Ole Miss to beat (sic)ga Saturday.

Oh man I would love for Lane to hang 65 on them...

 

[roadkill]

You forget they will hammer home the eye test of Miami scraping by every opponent.

Is that how Miami only got a #4 ranking in the first CFP poll?

 

[FightWinDrink]

Is that how Miami only got a #4 ranking in the first CFP poll?

They left FSU in until they took them out at the last minute. If it was 100% because of the injury they would have dropped FSU out of the top 4 after Jordan Travis got hurt. They played a game against Florida and moved up in the poll with a win to 4 and then got dropped to 5 after winning again against Louisville. if Miami loses at the end of the year to Miami and they have to decide between 12-1 Miami and 10-2 Alabama or 10-2 Tennessee I wouldn't bet money on them keeping Miami in as a sure thing

The Conference Commissioners of the SEC and the Big 10 have already been lobbying that the 12 team playoff structure should have 4 auto bids for the SEC and the Big 10

Report: SEC, Big Ten looking for 4 automatic bids each to College Football Playoff

The Big Ten and SEC could come together on a scheduling partnership, according to ESPN's Heather Dinich.

www.on3.com

The best bet for 2 ACC teams would be for SMU to beat Miami but have Indiana get blasted by Ohio State and have Indiana be the one snubbed


edit: i realize i might have misread your first post and you're saying they're only #4 because of my eye test comment despite being undefeated and I would say yes that is the part reason they are behind both Georgia and Ohio State. Counter argument could also be due to their lack of marquee wins though since Florida and FSU are both well below their norm this year