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<blockquote data-quote="RonJohn" data-source="post: 817362" data-attributes="member: 2426"><p>David Hale had an article a few days ago discussing the alliance negotiations. He does have some anonymous quotes for ADs, but he doesn't have any concrete information. However, some points related to things being discussed in this thread:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The ACC, Big10, and Pac12 have similarities. The Big12 and SEC have similarities. He basically says that the SEC/Big12 don't really match philosophically with the other three and vice versa.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The majority of the remaining Big12 teams don't match the philosophy of the other three conferences. A quote from the article: ".....the ACC, Big Ten and Pac-12, which prioritize academic profile and an expansive set of Olympic sports, don't overlap much with universities like <a href="https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/277/west-virginia-mountaineers" target="_blank">West Virginia</a> and <a href="https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2628/tcu-horned-frogs" target="_blank">TCU</a>."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The 12 team playoff was negotiated between the Big12, SEC, and ND. There were no representatives from the ACC, Big10, nor PAC12 in the room. He suggests that the idea an expanded playoff isn't dead, but that the other conferences probably won't vote for a 12 team playoff this year. They will likely push to negotiate more and find out why 8 or 10 team playoffs wouldn't work. --My take is he is basically saying that those conferences weren't involved in the negotiations to this point, and aren't going to just agree to what was decided by the Big12/SEC/ND.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The alliance might push for an open bidding process for CFP games, like the NFL. Don't give total control of the entire playoffs to one media company. --My take, this is some push back on ESPN.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He doesn't exactly say it in the article, but the mood is that the Big12 is now dead. There are few teams that would actually fit into the ACC/Big10/PAC12. The SEC has no reason to take any any more Big12 teams, and the remaining Big12 teams don't have any trust in the SEC anyway.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">ND isn't directly affected yet, but could easily be. No one conference has enough influence to force ND's hand. However, yf the alliance forces the CFP to remain at 4 teams, and if they add requirements like conference champions only, then ND will lose a lot of their ability to be independent.</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32055847/breaking-acc-big-ten-pac-12-alliance-comes-next[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RonJohn, post: 817362, member: 2426"] David Hale had an article a few days ago discussing the alliance negotiations. He does have some anonymous quotes for ADs, but he doesn't have any concrete information. However, some points related to things being discussed in this thread: [LIST] [*]The ACC, Big10, and Pac12 have similarities. The Big12 and SEC have similarities. He basically says that the SEC/Big12 don't really match philosophically with the other three and vice versa. [*]The majority of the remaining Big12 teams don't match the philosophy of the other three conferences. A quote from the article: ".....the ACC, Big Ten and Pac-12, which prioritize academic profile and an expansive set of Olympic sports, don't overlap much with universities like [URL='https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/277/west-virginia-mountaineers']West Virginia[/URL] and [URL='https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2628/tcu-horned-frogs']TCU[/URL]." [*]The 12 team playoff was negotiated between the Big12, SEC, and ND. There were no representatives from the ACC, Big10, nor PAC12 in the room. He suggests that the idea an expanded playoff isn't dead, but that the other conferences probably won't vote for a 12 team playoff this year. They will likely push to negotiate more and find out why 8 or 10 team playoffs wouldn't work. --My take is he is basically saying that those conferences weren't involved in the negotiations to this point, and aren't going to just agree to what was decided by the Big12/SEC/ND. [*]The alliance might push for an open bidding process for CFP games, like the NFL. Don't give total control of the entire playoffs to one media company. --My take, this is some push back on ESPN. [*]He doesn't exactly say it in the article, but the mood is that the Big12 is now dead. There are few teams that would actually fit into the ACC/Big10/PAC12. The SEC has no reason to take any any more Big12 teams, and the remaining Big12 teams don't have any trust in the SEC anyway. [*]ND isn't directly affected yet, but could easily be. No one conference has enough influence to force ND's hand. However, yf the alliance forces the CFP to remain at 4 teams, and if they add requirements like conference champions only, then ND will lose a lot of their ability to be independent. [/LIST] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32055847/breaking-acc-big-ten-pac-12-alliance-comes-next[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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