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<blockquote data-quote="RonJohn" data-source="post: 814219" data-attributes="member: 2426"><p>There are several weaknesses. First, the ACC will be viewed as a me too reactionary. (You got a sports car(Ferrari), Ha, I got a sports car too!!!(Camaro)) Secondly, and more important, reactively adding "some" schools will place limits on what the ACC might be able to do in the future. Suppose the ACC very quickly adds WV and UCF. Then in 2 years the Big10 adds Kansas to get to 15 schools. At that point, which conference would ND possibly consider joining? Would they join the ACC, which is already at 16 and would need to add 1 or 3 other schools to get to an even 18 or 20? (And what 1 or 3 schools would be available then? Tulsa?) Or would they join the Big10 which would be going to 15 and need one additional to get to 16 like the SEC and ACC?</p><p></p><p>I don't think that expanding is bad. I think that expanding out of desperation is bad. Expanding with whatever school might accept an invitation at the moment is bad. The ACC should only expand if the schools that are added actually increase the revenue and reputation of the conference. You seem to believe that without expanding, the ACC is doomed to fail. I think that if the ACC expands solely because the SEC did, and without real forethought, that it isn't in any better shape. The ACC shouldn't stand still, but they should plan and act deliberately instead of making quick moves.</p><p></p><p>I said this before in the thread. If the Big10, Pac12, Big12/AAC, and ACC believe that the SEC is moving to take over P5 football, then there are strong moves those conferences could take. Merge or strengthen the Big12/AAC. Form an alliance. Separate the P4(P5-SEC) conferences from the NCAA. Have a "national" CFP to compete with the "regional" SEC championship. If those conferences really believe that the SEC is trying to eliminate them, then don't try to keep up in their game, take the fight directly to them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RonJohn, post: 814219, member: 2426"] There are several weaknesses. First, the ACC will be viewed as a me too reactionary. (You got a sports car(Ferrari), Ha, I got a sports car too!!!(Camaro)) Secondly, and more important, reactively adding "some" schools will place limits on what the ACC might be able to do in the future. Suppose the ACC very quickly adds WV and UCF. Then in 2 years the Big10 adds Kansas to get to 15 schools. At that point, which conference would ND possibly consider joining? Would they join the ACC, which is already at 16 and would need to add 1 or 3 other schools to get to an even 18 or 20? (And what 1 or 3 schools would be available then? Tulsa?) Or would they join the Big10 which would be going to 15 and need one additional to get to 16 like the SEC and ACC? I don't think that expanding is bad. I think that expanding out of desperation is bad. Expanding with whatever school might accept an invitation at the moment is bad. The ACC should only expand if the schools that are added actually increase the revenue and reputation of the conference. You seem to believe that without expanding, the ACC is doomed to fail. I think that if the ACC expands solely because the SEC did, and without real forethought, that it isn't in any better shape. The ACC shouldn't stand still, but they should plan and act deliberately instead of making quick moves. I said this before in the thread. If the Big10, Pac12, Big12/AAC, and ACC believe that the SEC is moving to take over P5 football, then there are strong moves those conferences could take. Merge or strengthen the Big12/AAC. Form an alliance. Separate the P4(P5-SEC) conferences from the NCAA. Have a "national" CFP to compete with the "regional" SEC championship. If those conferences really believe that the SEC is trying to eliminate them, then don't try to keep up in their game, take the fight directly to them. [/QUOTE]
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