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<blockquote data-quote="slugboy" data-source="post: 812289" data-attributes="member: 282"><p>B12, with TX and OU still in:</p><p>(from <a href="https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances" target="_blank">https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances</a>)</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>School</td><td>Revenue</td><td>Expenses</td></tr><tr><td>1. Texas</td><td><p style="text-align: right">$224k</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">$204k</p> </td></tr><tr><td>8. Oklahoma</td><td><p style="text-align: right">$163k</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">$156k</p> </td></tr><tr><td>28. Kansas</td><td><p style="text-align: right">$121k</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">$109k</p> </td></tr><tr><td>40. West Virginia</td><td><p style="text-align: right">$103k</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">$98k</p> </td></tr><tr><td>43. Texas Tech</td><td><p style="text-align: right">$97k</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">$95k</p> </td></tr><tr><td>44. Iowa State</td><td><p style="text-align: right">$95k</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">$95k</p> </td></tr><tr><td>45. Oklahoma State</td><td><p style="text-align: right">$95k</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">$95k</p> </td></tr><tr><td>48. Kansas State</td><td><p style="text-align: right">$90k</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">$83k</p> </td></tr></table><p></p><p>If you’re Texas and Oklahoma, you can look at the B12 and see that you’re subsidizing the rest of the conference. Pull Texas and Oklahoma out, and the rest of the schools will see their revenues drop once the TV rights from Oklahoma and Texas leave. The revenue tails off strongly after those two.</p><p></p><p>From an “everyone pulling their weight” point of view, the SEC and the B1G are the only two conferences of interest to those two schools, and the SEC is ahead by a nose. Moving to the ACC would give Texas and Oklahoma a little more revenue, but not enough to be worth moving.</p><p></p><p>Most of the B1G schools are top 40 in revenue, each. Northwestern isn’t listed. Many are top 10.</p><p></p><p>In the SEC, Missouri is the laggard at #37, and Vandy isn’t listed. The SEC has 5 of the top 10 revenue generating programs, and 10 of the top 20. Texas A&M is #2, and the biggest revenue school in the SEC.</p><p></p><p>In the ACC, FSU is #12 nationally in revenue. Georgia Tech is last in the ACC at #50. Miami and Duke are private, and not listed.</p><p></p><p>In the Pac12, USC and Stanford are not listed, and USC is possibly the strongest revenue team. However, that conference overall is weaker in revenue per team than the ACC.</p><p></p><p>AAC schools like Cincinnati and UCF make less revenue than Georgia Tech. Adding AAC schools to the ACC isn’t a big boost to revenues. </p><p></p><p>From the ACC point of view, most of the teams we could add from the B12 would pull our average revenue per team down, but they’re better than the AAC. There aren’t many teams that would improve our revenues unless we pull from the B1G or SEC, which would cut into the revenues of the team moving to the ACC. </p><p></p><p>The Pac12 stays about the same adding many of the schools from the B12.</p><p></p><p>The B1G doesn’t get much out of Kansas, but doesn’t lose much either. They’re below the B1G average, but they’re a top 30 team.</p><p></p><p>The B1G could merge with the Pac 12 or the ACC, but it doesn’t help their income. A better deal for them might be a recurring B1G-ACC classic, where we have home-and-home games against the B1G.</p><p></p><p>This is a huge win for the SEC. The remaining B12 schools are going to be worse off either staying in the B12 or finding a new conference. Their budgets will shrink.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slugboy, post: 812289, member: 282"] B12, with TX and OU still in: (from [URL]https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances[/URL]) [TABLE] [TR] [TD]School[/TD] [TD]Revenue[/TD] [TD]Expenses[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1. Texas[/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$224k[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$204k[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]8. Oklahoma[/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$163k[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$156k[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]28. Kansas[/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$121k[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$109k[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]40. West Virginia[/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$103k[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$98k[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]43. Texas Tech[/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$97k[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$95k[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]44. Iowa State[/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$95k[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$95k[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]45. Oklahoma State[/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$95k[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$95k[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]48. Kansas State[/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$90k[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]$83k[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] If you’re Texas and Oklahoma, you can look at the B12 and see that you’re subsidizing the rest of the conference. Pull Texas and Oklahoma out, and the rest of the schools will see their revenues drop once the TV rights from Oklahoma and Texas leave. The revenue tails off strongly after those two. From an “everyone pulling their weight” point of view, the SEC and the B1G are the only two conferences of interest to those two schools, and the SEC is ahead by a nose. Moving to the ACC would give Texas and Oklahoma a little more revenue, but not enough to be worth moving. Most of the B1G schools are top 40 in revenue, each. Northwestern isn’t listed. Many are top 10. In the SEC, Missouri is the laggard at #37, and Vandy isn’t listed. The SEC has 5 of the top 10 revenue generating programs, and 10 of the top 20. Texas A&M is #2, and the biggest revenue school in the SEC. In the ACC, FSU is #12 nationally in revenue. Georgia Tech is last in the ACC at #50. Miami and Duke are private, and not listed. In the Pac12, USC and Stanford are not listed, and USC is possibly the strongest revenue team. However, that conference overall is weaker in revenue per team than the ACC. AAC schools like Cincinnati and UCF make less revenue than Georgia Tech. Adding AAC schools to the ACC isn’t a big boost to revenues. From the ACC point of view, most of the teams we could add from the B12 would pull our average revenue per team down, but they’re better than the AAC. There aren’t many teams that would improve our revenues unless we pull from the B1G or SEC, which would cut into the revenues of the team moving to the ACC. The Pac12 stays about the same adding many of the schools from the B12. The B1G doesn’t get much out of Kansas, but doesn’t lose much either. They’re below the B1G average, but they’re a top 30 team. The B1G could merge with the Pac 12 or the ACC, but it doesn’t help their income. A better deal for them might be a recurring B1G-ACC classic, where we have home-and-home games against the B1G. This is a huge win for the SEC. The remaining B12 schools are going to be worse off either staying in the B12 or finding a new conference. Their budgets will shrink. [/QUOTE]
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