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<blockquote data-quote="UpperNorth" data-source="post: 812101" data-attributes="member: 4097"><p>-Texas and OK are not interested in any other conference. From what I’ve read, they reached out to the SEC. They see it as the greatest opportunity for them and the best cultural/geographic fit.</p><p></p><p>-The SEC Conference has won this whole conference expansion thing. Credit them. Sadly they don’t value academics to the level of any other power conference but they made the right moves that has put them in an advantageous position today. Btw, not sure if this was planned but had they acquired Texas first, they likely would’ve had a more difficult time getting A&M second. Texas would’ve been at the table on that discussion. As it is they have the 2 most powerful Texas schools leaving other conferences to consider reaching out to the ‘other’ Texas schools.</p><p></p><p>-Let’s not lose our minds too much on this. I’m not so sure the biggest losers in this aren’t teams like USCe, Ark, ole Miss, Miss St, Mizzou… Those programs will have plenty of money but will they ever actually compete for a championship? I’d rather be UNC or even Tech right now. We’re recruiting on par with some of those teams but have a much better chance at making a 12 team playoff than any of them in the near future. </p><p></p><p>-I admire the ACC for being loyal and valuing academics during our last expansions but I’ve never, not once have I been excited about playing: BC, Pitt, or Syracuse. And as much as I appreciate some of the epic basketball played in the 80’s and 90s, I don’t see what NC St or Wake have done for the conference as a whole for the last nearly 20 years. Now we’re married to those teams and other programs whose football programs have steadily dropped since joining the league. Not saying the conference is unsalvageable but when you start throwing out the ideas of luring ND, Penn State, and even Texas A&M you have to consider who we are as conference. Not saying it’s impossible but looking at the trend of conference earnings, the ACC obviously didn’t do a good job with our last expansions.</p><p></p><p>-Our best chances to position ourselves for the next realignment is to continue to get better, continue to leverage our location in Atlanta, and continue building our brand. Do that and maybe we have a chance to either stay in an improving ACC or down the line jump to the Big 10.</p><p></p><p>-and for what it’s worth I don’t see the PAC 12 going anywhere, at least their member schools make sense together, unlike the current ACC. They should go out and consider adding a couple of schools to help increase conference revenue but at the end of the day, their current members are good cultural fits and don’t see them jumping ship.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UpperNorth, post: 812101, member: 4097"] -Texas and OK are not interested in any other conference. From what I’ve read, they reached out to the SEC. They see it as the greatest opportunity for them and the best cultural/geographic fit. -The SEC Conference has won this whole conference expansion thing. Credit them. Sadly they don’t value academics to the level of any other power conference but they made the right moves that has put them in an advantageous position today. Btw, not sure if this was planned but had they acquired Texas first, they likely would’ve had a more difficult time getting A&M second. Texas would’ve been at the table on that discussion. As it is they have the 2 most powerful Texas schools leaving other conferences to consider reaching out to the ‘other’ Texas schools. -Let’s not lose our minds too much on this. I’m not so sure the biggest losers in this aren’t teams like USCe, Ark, ole Miss, Miss St, Mizzou… Those programs will have plenty of money but will they ever actually compete for a championship? I’d rather be UNC or even Tech right now. We’re recruiting on par with some of those teams but have a much better chance at making a 12 team playoff than any of them in the near future. -I admire the ACC for being loyal and valuing academics during our last expansions but I’ve never, not once have I been excited about playing: BC, Pitt, or Syracuse. And as much as I appreciate some of the epic basketball played in the 80’s and 90s, I don’t see what NC St or Wake have done for the conference as a whole for the last nearly 20 years. Now we’re married to those teams and other programs whose football programs have steadily dropped since joining the league. Not saying the conference is unsalvageable but when you start throwing out the ideas of luring ND, Penn State, and even Texas A&M you have to consider who we are as conference. Not saying it’s impossible but looking at the trend of conference earnings, the ACC obviously didn’t do a good job with our last expansions. -Our best chances to position ourselves for the next realignment is to continue to get better, continue to leverage our location in Atlanta, and continue building our brand. Do that and maybe we have a chance to either stay in an improving ACC or down the line jump to the Big 10. -and for what it’s worth I don’t see the PAC 12 going anywhere, at least their member schools make sense together, unlike the current ACC. They should go out and consider adding a couple of schools to help increase conference revenue but at the end of the day, their current members are good cultural fits and don’t see them jumping ship. [/QUOTE]
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