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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce Wayne" data-source="post: 79866" data-attributes="member: 231"><p>Depends on what motivated Animal's comment I think. I just looked back at his original comment and Animal actually does not say much and so I think you filled in his premises one way and I went another way. I actually read him as saying that the complainant admitted to a form of physical assault and so Animal (given where he is clearly coming from) meant it looks muddled enough that he thinks both parties should be suspected of assault until it is all sorted out. I read him that way in part because he did not say "Dwyer should not have been arrested" or at least I did not take that as a hidden premise of his post.</p><p></p><p>You put emphasis on the report suggesting that the order of events in her words makes the biting defense against some form of sexual assault. I suppose I was splitting the middle between both your and Animal's reactions by pointing out that her account starts with having an argument and then Dwyer trying to kiss and "remove" (I took that to mean <em>not </em>tear or rip off) her clothes. Her account thus struck me as more indicative of Dwyer seriously miscalculating her anger and the state of the argument that they were in and so making a very ill-advised attempt to defuse the situation by intimacy. He <em>may very well</em> have been in an enraged state and it was attempted (or even aggravated) sexual assault.</p><p></p><p>So on your part I bolded out what I based my response on. That doesn't mean that Animal is not equally capable of a rush to judge in defense of the accused male husband/assailant. I just didn't happen to read him that way. Looking back at his posts he actually didn't give us a lot to go on and I defaulted to a charitable reading (I think).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce Wayne, post: 79866, member: 231"] Depends on what motivated Animal's comment I think. I just looked back at his original comment and Animal actually does not say much and so I think you filled in his premises one way and I went another way. I actually read him as saying that the complainant admitted to a form of physical assault and so Animal (given where he is clearly coming from) meant it looks muddled enough that he thinks both parties should be suspected of assault until it is all sorted out. I read him that way in part because he did not say "Dwyer should not have been arrested" or at least I did not take that as a hidden premise of his post. You put emphasis on the report suggesting that the order of events in her words makes the biting defense against some form of sexual assault. I suppose I was splitting the middle between both your and Animal's reactions by pointing out that her account starts with having an argument and then Dwyer trying to kiss and "remove" (I took that to mean [I]not [/I]tear or rip off) her clothes. Her account thus struck me as more indicative of Dwyer seriously miscalculating her anger and the state of the argument that they were in and so making a very ill-advised attempt to defuse the situation by intimacy. He [I]may very well[/I] have been in an enraged state and it was attempted (or even aggravated) sexual assault. So on your part I bolded out what I based my response on. That doesn't mean that Animal is not equally capable of a rush to judge in defense of the accused male husband/assailant. I just didn't happen to read him that way. Looking back at his posts he actually didn't give us a lot to go on and I defaulted to a charitable reading (I think). [/QUOTE]
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