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<blockquote data-quote="slugboy" data-source="post: 142148" data-attributes="member: 282"><p>I'm not speaking for anyone else, but I'm not saying that CBG has coached well enough to stay here. He clearly hasn't gotten the job done. But, <a href="http://freakonomics.com/2012/12/21/is-changing-the-coach-really-the-answer/" target="_blank">most of the time changing coaches doesn't make you any better off</a>. There are some coaches that are clear difference-makers (Popovich, Budenholzer, Calipari, Pitino), but they're the exception.</p><p></p><p>Replacing CBG with a coach that brings you up to mediocre isn't worth the change--you're still not where you should be and you're not getting there with 90% of the basketball coaches out there.</p><p></p><p>And, as we saw with our football team, we needed changes outside the core coaching staff (recruiting staff) to be competitive. Just bringing in a head coach might not be enough.</p><p></p><p>I think there's <1% chance that MBob's meeting gets CBG to stop sabotaging his own coaching career here. I think it's very hard to be an above-average coach, but very easy for a talented and smart coach to be below average--just have one or more flaws you don't fix. At least one of them for CBG is his teaching of offensive fundamentals (and that's a huge flaw, no doubt). I don't think his recruiting is as bad as his offensive coaching (I think he recruited better at Dayton, in fact). But, if he hasn't addressed his offensive coaching in four years here and all the previous years at Dayton, it's a stretch to think he'll do it next year.</p><p></p><p>Even if you look at the "wish list" coaches we were talked about on this forum, most of them have flaws we're saying are tolerable. Hewitt couldn't get anyone to dribble or inbound, and people thought that Gregory would at least be an improvement over him. His teams play better defense, worse offense (amazingly), and the recruiting has gone down. So that change was swapping one coaching problem for a different coaching problem. If we swap Gregory for someone who sets up better offense, but the defense drops off, then we'll be as bad off, or worse because we have the wrong recruits for the new system.</p><p></p><p>For example, if you speculate on why Tommy Amaker wouldn't talk to us but would talk to Miami, you'd have to think it's some gap in the program, and it's not facilities or tutors or recruiting base or even academic difficulty. I suspect it's the same for the other high-quality coaching candidates out there. Aside from getting out from two coaching contracts, which is important, there may be something else to fix before a new coach comes on. And MBob better look at the entire state of the program.</p><p></p><p>(complete aside: maybe it's hard to pass the hat to get donations to pay off Gregory's contract, but I'm surprised donors won't put money towards getting out from under the Hewitt contract--you'd think that would be more tolerable).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slugboy, post: 142148, member: 282"] I'm not speaking for anyone else, but I'm not saying that CBG has coached well enough to stay here. He clearly hasn't gotten the job done. But, [URL='http://freakonomics.com/2012/12/21/is-changing-the-coach-really-the-answer/']most of the time changing coaches doesn't make you any better off[/URL]. There are some coaches that are clear difference-makers (Popovich, Budenholzer, Calipari, Pitino), but they're the exception. Replacing CBG with a coach that brings you up to mediocre isn't worth the change--you're still not where you should be and you're not getting there with 90% of the basketball coaches out there. And, as we saw with our football team, we needed changes outside the core coaching staff (recruiting staff) to be competitive. Just bringing in a head coach might not be enough. I think there's <1% chance that MBob's meeting gets CBG to stop sabotaging his own coaching career here. I think it's very hard to be an above-average coach, but very easy for a talented and smart coach to be below average--just have one or more flaws you don't fix. At least one of them for CBG is his teaching of offensive fundamentals (and that's a huge flaw, no doubt). I don't think his recruiting is as bad as his offensive coaching (I think he recruited better at Dayton, in fact). But, if he hasn't addressed his offensive coaching in four years here and all the previous years at Dayton, it's a stretch to think he'll do it next year. Even if you look at the "wish list" coaches we were talked about on this forum, most of them have flaws we're saying are tolerable. Hewitt couldn't get anyone to dribble or inbound, and people thought that Gregory would at least be an improvement over him. His teams play better defense, worse offense (amazingly), and the recruiting has gone down. So that change was swapping one coaching problem for a different coaching problem. If we swap Gregory for someone who sets up better offense, but the defense drops off, then we'll be as bad off, or worse because we have the wrong recruits for the new system. For example, if you speculate on why Tommy Amaker wouldn't talk to us but would talk to Miami, you'd have to think it's some gap in the program, and it's not facilities or tutors or recruiting base or even academic difficulty. I suspect it's the same for the other high-quality coaching candidates out there. Aside from getting out from two coaching contracts, which is important, there may be something else to fix before a new coach comes on. And MBob better look at the entire state of the program. (complete aside: maybe it's hard to pass the hat to get donations to pay off Gregory's contract, but I'm surprised donors won't put money towards getting out from under the Hewitt contract--you'd think that would be more tolerable). [/QUOTE]
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