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<blockquote data-quote="jojatk" data-source="post: 752386" data-attributes="member: 2627"><p>I'm genuinely confused on this Nebraska thing. They went away from that I-formation option they used under Osborne and Solich, that was similar in concept to what CPJ tried to do with his version of the option, when they hired Bill Callahan back in 2004 and he installed a west coast offense. He lasted four years and then they hired Bo Pellini and they went to a shotgun spread offense and used it and variations of it until he was fired and they brought in Mike Riley who ran a "multiple" offense that was not a triple option. When they fired him they hired Scott Frost who brought his no-huddle spread from UCF to Nebraska. Their offense wasn't very good under Riley but it had been pretty OK the few years before that with the shotgun spread. When Frost came in they improved a bit but then again they had a 4* QB who was the #7 rated dual-threat QB in the country and had been committed to Cal-Berkley and Tennessee at various points before deciding on Nebraska. They weren't bad in 2018 but last year they regressed a bunch. They were 4-8 in 2017, they were 4-8 in 2018 which was Frost's first year, and they were 5-7 last year.</p><p></p><p>Their only transition was going from the shotgun spread to a "multiple" offense that was OK the first year and then got worse for the next two years. So they brought in Scott Frost who runs, guess what, a version of a spread option. His is no-huddle. And they brought in a highly regarded freshman QB who did well. Then year two happened and they regressed. Expectations were higher this year with Martinez (QB) in his third year. Remember, he was a highly recruited QB out of HS being recruited as a QB by other P5 teams.</p><p></p><p>Anyway I honestly don't see Nebraska as a monumental transition in modern times. Their big transitions happened in 2004 and 2008. From about 2004 - 2011 their recruiting classes were generally rated in the 20s nationally. According to 247 recruiting 2012 they were 32nd, 2013 they were 22nd, 2014 they were 35th, 2015 they were 30th, 2016 they were 26th, 2017 they were 23rd, 2018 they were 23rd, 2019 they were 17th. According to Rivals 2012/25th, 2013/17th, 2014/32nd, 2015/31st, 2016/24th, 2017/20th, 2018/21st, 2019/15th, and so far in 2020 they are rated 17th. So I'm not sure where your numbers of 39th and 41st are coming from.</p><p></p><p>I'm not even arguing your overall point right now. I'm just trying to figure out how Nebraska is analogous to GT in any way, shape, or form. And in 2014 and 2015 Nebraska threw for way more yards/game than we did in those two years so again, I'm very confused about what you're saying. To me they don't seem to be analogous at all. And FWIW I liked our offense under CPJ and am glad we had him as a coach.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jojatk, post: 752386, member: 2627"] I'm genuinely confused on this Nebraska thing. They went away from that I-formation option they used under Osborne and Solich, that was similar in concept to what CPJ tried to do with his version of the option, when they hired Bill Callahan back in 2004 and he installed a west coast offense. He lasted four years and then they hired Bo Pellini and they went to a shotgun spread offense and used it and variations of it until he was fired and they brought in Mike Riley who ran a "multiple" offense that was not a triple option. When they fired him they hired Scott Frost who brought his no-huddle spread from UCF to Nebraska. Their offense wasn't very good under Riley but it had been pretty OK the few years before that with the shotgun spread. When Frost came in they improved a bit but then again they had a 4* QB who was the #7 rated dual-threat QB in the country and had been committed to Cal-Berkley and Tennessee at various points before deciding on Nebraska. They weren't bad in 2018 but last year they regressed a bunch. They were 4-8 in 2017, they were 4-8 in 2018 which was Frost's first year, and they were 5-7 last year. Their only transition was going from the shotgun spread to a "multiple" offense that was OK the first year and then got worse for the next two years. So they brought in Scott Frost who runs, guess what, a version of a spread option. His is no-huddle. And they brought in a highly regarded freshman QB who did well. Then year two happened and they regressed. Expectations were higher this year with Martinez (QB) in his third year. Remember, he was a highly recruited QB out of HS being recruited as a QB by other P5 teams. Anyway I honestly don't see Nebraska as a monumental transition in modern times. Their big transitions happened in 2004 and 2008. From about 2004 - 2011 their recruiting classes were generally rated in the 20s nationally. According to 247 recruiting 2012 they were 32nd, 2013 they were 22nd, 2014 they were 35th, 2015 they were 30th, 2016 they were 26th, 2017 they were 23rd, 2018 they were 23rd, 2019 they were 17th. According to Rivals 2012/25th, 2013/17th, 2014/32nd, 2015/31st, 2016/24th, 2017/20th, 2018/21st, 2019/15th, and so far in 2020 they are rated 17th. So I'm not sure where your numbers of 39th and 41st are coming from. I'm not even arguing your overall point right now. I'm just trying to figure out how Nebraska is analogous to GT in any way, shape, or form. And in 2014 and 2015 Nebraska threw for way more yards/game than we did in those two years so again, I'm very confused about what you're saying. To me they don't seem to be analogous at all. And FWIW I liked our offense under CPJ and am glad we had him as a coach. [/QUOTE]
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