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<blockquote data-quote="mstranahan" data-source="post: 939877" data-attributes="member: 2802"><p>Academics is a legit issue for a portion of the P5 base. (Northwestern, Vanderbilt, and others come to mind) it isn't hard to look at the admissions stats for schools to see which ones are more academically rigorous. I think the variable that is hard to see from the outside is the leniency the admissions office & administration have with regard to athletics. </p><p></p><p>I went to a D3 school, so no TV money or scholarships to worry about. We still knew we had three "leans" every year in admissions. We could get 3 kids in who were qualified, but on the lower end of the academic scale. They still had to go to class, do the work, etc and there were no slide classes. But we got in as many as three each year who wouldn't ordinarily have gotten in. Hoops was their admissions pass. (Football and soccer also had some "leans") To be fair, the rich parent & alumni connections got far more knuckleheads in than athletics did. </p><p></p><p>ETA: Last year, my alma mater accepted 8% of applicants. I know they got in 5 kids for hoops and 2 of them had SATs that would be deal killers without athletics. So the system is still working like it did back in the day.</p><p></p><p>My understanding (very much third hand) is that during the Cremins years, he got in anyone he wanted and no one cared about academics. Ditto during the early Hewitt years. At some point, the administration clamped down and said they would only admit kids who were at least marginally qualified. Based on casual observation, I still believe GT athletics gets kids in who would never get in otherwise. (This is true, IMO, at every D1 &D2 school and probably most D3) </p><p></p><p>Will be interesting if the administration loosens up at all and allows CBK & CDS to get in the more marginal kids or if they stay with the current approach</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mstranahan, post: 939877, member: 2802"] Academics is a legit issue for a portion of the P5 base. (Northwestern, Vanderbilt, and others come to mind) it isn't hard to look at the admissions stats for schools to see which ones are more academically rigorous. I think the variable that is hard to see from the outside is the leniency the admissions office & administration have with regard to athletics. I went to a D3 school, so no TV money or scholarships to worry about. We still knew we had three "leans" every year in admissions. We could get 3 kids in who were qualified, but on the lower end of the academic scale. They still had to go to class, do the work, etc and there were no slide classes. But we got in as many as three each year who wouldn't ordinarily have gotten in. Hoops was their admissions pass. (Football and soccer also had some "leans") To be fair, the rich parent & alumni connections got far more knuckleheads in than athletics did. ETA: Last year, my alma mater accepted 8% of applicants. I know they got in 5 kids for hoops and 2 of them had SATs that would be deal killers without athletics. So the system is still working like it did back in the day. My understanding (very much third hand) is that during the Cremins years, he got in anyone he wanted and no one cared about academics. Ditto during the early Hewitt years. At some point, the administration clamped down and said they would only admit kids who were at least marginally qualified. Based on casual observation, I still believe GT athletics gets kids in who would never get in otherwise. (This is true, IMO, at every D1 &D2 school and probably most D3) Will be interesting if the administration loosens up at all and allows CBK & CDS to get in the more marginal kids or if they stay with the current approach [/QUOTE]
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