CPJ Offense Stats at Tech

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As always with too much time on my hands and how I like to analyze, I gathered stats on offenses at Tech under CPJ. What I looked at was Points Per Game, Yards Per Game and Rushing Yards Per Game. I looked at numbers and rankings in FBS. Here they are, conclusions
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Points per Game
Year Rank totals
08 74 24.4
09 15 33,8
10 70 26
11 21 34.3
12 34 33.6
13 27 35.1
14 12 37.9
15 63 29.3
16 70 28.2
17 70 28.1

Yard Per Game
Year Rank totals
08 50 372
09 26 422
10 36 407
11 18 459
12 35 441
13 45 430
14 20 477
15 80 378
16 85 387
17 74 392


Rushing Yards Per game
Year Rank totals
08 4 273
09 2 295.4
10 1 323
11 2 316.5
12 4 311
13 6 299
14 2 342
15 8 256
16 9 258
17 4 307.4

Conclusions.
How did we win 9 games in 2016.
Obvious 2009 and 2014 our offense was very good
Not so obvious, well just based on the numbers, the best and most consistent QB we have had......Tevin Washington. Years 2010-2012
 

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Coloradojacket said:
As always with too much time on my hands and how I like to analyze, I gathered stats on offenses at Tech under CPJ. What I looked at was Points Per Game, Yards Per Game and Rushing Yards Per Game. I looked at numbers and rankings in FBS. Here they are, conclusions
at the end

Points per Game
Year Rank totals
08 74 24.4
09 15 33,8
10 70 26
11 21 34.3
12 34 33.6
13 27 35.1
14 12 37.9
15 63 29.3
16 70 28.2
17 70 28.1

Yard Per Game
Year Rank totals
08 50 372
09 26 422
10 36 407
11 18 459
12 35 441
13 45 430
14 20 477
15 80 378
16 85 387
17 74 392


Rushing Yards Per game
Year Rank totals
08 4 273
09 2 295.4
10 1 323
11 2 316.5
12 4 311
13 6 299
14 2 342
15 8 256
16 9 258
17 4 307.4

Conclusions.
How did we win 9 games in 2016.
Obvious 2009 and 2014 our offense was very good
Not so obvious, well just based on the numbers, the best and most consistent QB we have had......Tevin Washington. Years 2010-2012
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Well, a few thoughts:
1) RE: 2016, sometimes the ball bounces the right way. We were 2 injured/shaky kickers away from being 8-3 last year.
2) I would look at points per possession and yards per possession and ranks that way. By the nature of how we run the clock, we're comparing apples to oranges if we compare our total offense and points on 8-10 possessions a game to teams that have 12-16 possessions per game.
 
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bwelbo said:
Well, a few thoughts:
1) RE: 2016, sometimes the ball bounces the right way. We were 2 injured/shaky kickers away from being 8-3 last year.
2) I would look at points per possession and yards per possession and ranks that way. By the nature of how we run the clock, we're comparing apples to oranges if we compare our total offense and points on 8-10 possessions a game to teams that have 12-16 possessions per game.
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See your point on number 2 but all things being equal every year, ie there are always teams out there that have a lot of possessions, when just comparing Tech year to year the statistics should work.
 

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See your point on number 2 but all things being equal every year, ie there are always teams out there that have a lot of possessions, when just comparing Tech year to year the statistics should work.
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If you're just comparing Tech to Tech itself from 1 year to the next, yep, I would absolutely agree with that.

2016 (back to the 'how did we do that'), remember that was the year we came from behind on multiple crazy plays like a 4th and 18 to beat Boston College by 3. We also had to come from behind on some silly 3rd and forever plays to beat Duke by 3. Against Virginia Tech, we had like 4 takeaways and it just seemed like we got every break that was to be had that day. At georgia, we had to come from behind with stupid georgia play calls (like the late interception) and the famous Searcy Airborne display to win by 1 point.
 
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Again, not going to load all the stats but just this. Tech Defense from 2008-2017 on just Point per Game, which is all that matters, has averaged giving up 25 points per game. App State over the last 3 years......19. Again all things being equal meaning they don't play as hard teams as we do but they don't have our talent.......give CPJ 6 points per game and watch out.
 

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bwelbo said:
If you're just comparing Tech to Tech itself from 1 year to the next, yep, I would absolutely agree with that.

2016 (back to the 'how did we do that'), remember that was the year we came from behind on multiple crazy plays like a 4th and 18 to beat Boston College by 3. We also had to come from behind on some silly 3rd and forever plays to beat Duke by 3. Against Virginia Tech, we had like 4 takeaways and it just seemed like we got every break that was to be had that day. At georgia, we had to come from behind with stupid georgia play calls (like the late interception) and the famous Searcy Airborne display to win by 1 point.
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It feels like in even years 14&16 we get all the bounces and breaks. Odd 15&17 everything goes to hell. I’m hopeful 2018 is somewhere between 14&16.....
 
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Yards are fine but if you get inside the 15 and can't score TD's you are not going to be any good on offense. Sometimes you have to punch them in the mouth and power block . ( I could be wrong I'm old and don't remember things but I thought this was a problem we had last year )
 

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If you are a T.O. supporter, don't draw a graph. If the Off is our trump card then this explains a lot about our record for last 3 yrs.
 

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We can always analyze the reasons, but I think the bottom line is that our margin for error is razor thin. Everyone loves to talk about how good we were in 2014, but they forget that we could have just as easily lost to Southern, VT, and georgia. Just like we could have easily beaten Tennessee, Virginia, and Miami last year. I’m not convinced that 2016 was that great a year. I mean I like 9 wins and beating georgia, but we were 4-4 in conference...not exactly a banner season.

So back to the margin of error thing...it’s already thin, but if you add to that losing a pre-season first team ACC back and having absolutely no answer in the kicking game you lose close games.

We return some experience this year. TQM should be better, Benson is solid, D may improve...but the margin is still thin. I’m still not sold on our kickers, so that has me the most worried, but it will probably be like every other year under CPJ...tons of nail biter types of games. Can we just come out on top in more than half of those? If so we have a shot at the division...if not, we hover around 6-6.
 
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Coloradojacket said:
As always with too much time on my hands and how I like to analyze, I gathered stats on offenses at Tech under CPJ. What I looked at was Points Per Game, Yards Per Game and Rushing Yards Per Game. I looked at numbers and rankings in FBS. Here they are, conclusions
at the end

Points per Game
Year Rank totals
08 74 24.4
09 15 33,8
10 70 26
11 21 34.3
12 34 33.6
13 27 35.1
14 12 37.9
15 63 29.3
16 70 28.2
17 70 28.1

Yard Per Game
Year Rank totals
08 50 372
09 26 422
10 36 407
11 18 459
12 35 441
13 45 430
14 20 477
15 80 378
16 85 387
17 74 392


Rushing Yards Per game
Year Rank totals
08 4 273
09 2 295.4
10 1 323
11 2 316.5
12 4 311
13 6 299
14 2 342
15 8 256
16 9 258
17 4 307.4

Conclusions.
How did we win 9 games in 2016.
Obvious 2009 and 2014 our offense was very good
Not so obvious, well just based on the numbers, the best and most consistent QB we have had......Tevin Washington. Years 2010-2012
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The "Tevin Years" are more impressive if you look at offensive FEI. It's been said MANY times, if our offense had a top 30 defense during those years, the narrative on Tevin would be totally different.
 

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Coloradojacket said:
Again, not going to load all the stats but just this. Tech Defense from 2008-2017 on just Point per Game, which is all that matters, has averaged giving up 25 points per game. App State over the last 3 years......19. Again all things being equal meaning they don't play as hard teams as we do but they don't have our talent.......give CPJ 6 points per game and watch out.
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That is a good point about Tech's defense averaging roughly 25 points a game which in this day and age of spread offenses and linemen being permitted to hold, extend their arms, and do everything but tackle an onrushing lineman or linebacker it really is not that shabby.

Unfortunately, 25 points a game will just not get it done against the likes of UGA, Clemson, and Miami. We cannot outscore those teams so we need to play clean on offense, hold the ball, and keep them to three touchdowns or less to have a good shot. It can be done but we must get better on defense.
 

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Techster said:
The "TevinO Years" are more impressive if you look at offensive FEI. It's been said MANY times, if our offense had a top 30 defense during those years, the narrative on Tevin would be totally different.
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This "narrative on Tevin" that you speak of. I happen to think he is underrated although the image of that "boomerang" throw against NC State that Ostrwin Smith miraculously hauled in along the sideline is still the quintessential Tevin throw. The blasted thing appeared to be going sideways like flying saucer. Nonetheless, Tevin was a fine field general and orchestrated some memorable wins especially that one in 2011 against 5th ranked and undefeated Clemson. Boy howdy, he was cooking that night.
 

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bke1984 said:
We can always analyze the reasons, but I think the bottom line is that our margin for error is razor thin. Everyone loves to talk about how good we were in 2014, but they forget that we could have just as easily lost to Southern, VT, and georgia. Just like we could have easily beaten Tennessee, Virginia, and Miami last year. I’m not convinced that 2016 was that great a year. I mean I like 9 wins and beating georgia, but we were 4-4 in conference...not exactly a banner season.

So back to the margin of error thing...it’s already thin, but if you add to that losing a pre-season first team ACC back and having absolutely no answer in the kicking game you lose close games.

We return some experience this year. TQM should be better, Benson is solid, D may improve...but the margin is still thin. I’m still not sold on our kickers, so that has me the most worried, but it will probably be like every other year under CPJ...tons of nail biter types of games. Can we just come out on top in more than half of those? If so we have a shot at the division...if not, we hover around 6-6.
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If you don't like the razor thin margin for error, the remedy is to score touchdowns and hit long plays with receivers like Bey Bey, Smelter, etc. What? we don't have any of those? Well, guess its back to razor thin margin for error and grinding it out on the ground to limit the other teams' possessions because I do not share the confidence some people have in our latest savior on defense good though he may be. When you don't have any Vance Walkers or Darryl Richards or Derrick Morgans it is hard to out scheme teams on defense but we will see. I would love to be wrong.
 
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bwelbo said:
Huh huh, inflate our D.
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