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<blockquote data-quote="FredJacket" data-source="post: 799118" data-attributes="member: 2843"><p>A lot to unpack here. My bottom line is Coach Hall is a great coach and Ga Tech baseball has had tremendous sustained success his entire career at Tech. Many feel the game as passed him by or his talent has been better than the results (over time). I don't know if that is true or not... no way to know. I am pretty risk averse, I guess. And I do not see greener grass as quickly as others do. For the record, I am also not "happy" or "satisfied" with the post-season results; but again... not sure I'm ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We had teams ready, prepared, and positioned to advance; but they didn't for many reasons... frustrating for sure; but I'm not laying that all on the coach.</p><p></p><p>As for the numbers... his career winning % is .654. In a 60 game season, that is around 39-40 wins in a season. So... his great years were 3-4 more wins than that and his bad years were 3-4 fewer. While the trend is indeed down... I'd submit he's still winning at a very good clip for an ACC baseball program that normally plays some quality out of conference competition too.</p><p></p><p>But OK... the trend is down. The big question is WHY? Is this on Coach Hall? More important...could someone else have done better? I'd like to see/know how GTAA's spending on assistant coaches and facilities upgrades have kept pace with other P5 programs in the Southeast (where we have recruited mostly). If you overlaid that data with the "trend"... that would be telling and speak to the 'why' on parity, you pondered. TStan seemed to be the "change agent" in this regard. I am not close enough to the program to know... but I've always assumed the hire of DBo was a significant increase in 'investment' to keep up with other programs. That leads to another question specific to CDH... has he be pounding the table for 15 year with each new GTAA admin to get that kind of support OR has he been asleep at the wheel? I have no idea.... but that matters to me in this discussion.</p><p></p><p>Now some anecdotal crap... I remember a few years ago when Clemson hired Monte Lee and sent Jack Leggett on his way. Quite a few GT faithful were quick to say we needed to do the same with Hall. Coach Lee had some early success (one really strong season); but now Clemson is a .500 ACC club scratching to make post-season every year.</p><p></p><p>I'd like Ramsey to stick around as head coach too. My fear is Ga Tech (TStan) will be reluctant to hire a guy (Ramsey) with no head coaching on his resume. The Ga Tech job will be highly regarded by some mid-major and lessor P5 coaches who are having success... looking for that next career upgrade. Will be interesting to see how Ga Tech handles that. As for DBo....great hire. However, I'm ready to stop giving him a pass too. This "when he has his guys" stuff should be dampened a little IMO. He's been with the program long enough. His job is to coach up our pitchers and have them ready to compete. I am pretty sure he would say they are "his guys" too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FredJacket, post: 799118, member: 2843"] A lot to unpack here. My bottom line is Coach Hall is a great coach and Ga Tech baseball has had tremendous sustained success his entire career at Tech. Many feel the game as passed him by or his talent has been better than the results (over time). I don't know if that is true or not... no way to know. I am pretty risk averse, I guess. And I do not see greener grass as quickly as others do. For the record, I am also not "happy" or "satisfied" with the post-season results; but again... not sure I'm ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We had teams ready, prepared, and positioned to advance; but they didn't for many reasons... frustrating for sure; but I'm not laying that all on the coach. As for the numbers... his career winning % is .654. In a 60 game season, that is around 39-40 wins in a season. So... his great years were 3-4 more wins than that and his bad years were 3-4 fewer. While the trend is indeed down... I'd submit he's still winning at a very good clip for an ACC baseball program that normally plays some quality out of conference competition too. But OK... the trend is down. The big question is WHY? Is this on Coach Hall? More important...could someone else have done better? I'd like to see/know how GTAA's spending on assistant coaches and facilities upgrades have kept pace with other P5 programs in the Southeast (where we have recruited mostly). If you overlaid that data with the "trend"... that would be telling and speak to the 'why' on parity, you pondered. TStan seemed to be the "change agent" in this regard. I am not close enough to the program to know... but I've always assumed the hire of DBo was a significant increase in 'investment' to keep up with other programs. That leads to another question specific to CDH... has he be pounding the table for 15 year with each new GTAA admin to get that kind of support OR has he been asleep at the wheel? I have no idea.... but that matters to me in this discussion. Now some anecdotal crap... I remember a few years ago when Clemson hired Monte Lee and sent Jack Leggett on his way. Quite a few GT faithful were quick to say we needed to do the same with Hall. Coach Lee had some early success (one really strong season); but now Clemson is a .500 ACC club scratching to make post-season every year. I'd like Ramsey to stick around as head coach too. My fear is Ga Tech (TStan) will be reluctant to hire a guy (Ramsey) with no head coaching on his resume. The Ga Tech job will be highly regarded by some mid-major and lessor P5 coaches who are having success... looking for that next career upgrade. Will be interesting to see how Ga Tech handles that. As for DBo....great hire. However, I'm ready to stop giving him a pass too. This "when he has his guys" stuff should be dampened a little IMO. He's been with the program long enough. His job is to coach up our pitchers and have them ready to compete. I am pretty sure he would say they are "his guys" too. [/QUOTE]
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