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<blockquote data-quote="BCJacket" data-source="post: 999647" data-attributes="member: 2332"><p>This is root of what doesn't make sense to me about what FSU is doing. The FSU fans say the 'B1G told them'... Who told them? When? The B1G commissioner? Some of the B1G presidents? An invite to the conference will require a vote of the Presidents. I can't imagine that they held a secret vote and extended a written contract offer to FSU with a defined payout - not when FSU is bound by a GOR for 10 years without a clear pathway out. Maybe it was a straw-poll hypothetical: 'would you approve FSU for membership if they were available and had their media rights?' </p><p></p><p>But, if so, that was (presumably) before this lawsuit. Before FSU got left out of the playoffs and pitched a s*** fit. Adding FSU (<em>with </em>their full media rights) would get each school just a few million more per year. Which would be nice, but not a 'must have' for the B1G schools. Saying 'FSU would be a good addition, hypothetically', is one thing. Voting that you want a vindictive, self-important, deep-in-debt, prima donna in your conference for a small percentage pay bump is a different calculation...</p><p></p><p>Which, maybe FSU will agree to a reduced payout to entice the B1G schools to vote them in. But then... what does FSU gain? The B1G schools (full share) get about $20 million more than the ACC. Let's say FSU got a full share. They borrow $500 million from private equity (a low estimate) to pay off the ACC and get out. Private equity wants to make big money, it won't be a low interest rate. But let's say they get 7%, which would be a very good rate right now. That's $35 million in interest, every year. FSU would <em>lose </em>$15 million a year vs the ACC. But, most likely, they're not getting a full share... Most likely, the interest rate will be more like 10%... Which makes that math even worse for them. Even if the B1G payout rises, they'd have a lot of ground to make up just to break even.</p><p></p><p>I feel like FSU is going to be the guy who's married to a good woman. But the younger prettier girl at work joked that his wife is so lucky and she wished she could find a guy like him... Bro leaves his wife and goes through a nasty divorce. Loses his house, money and dignity. Now the pretty girl says: 'You're a broke, mean, selfish jerk who treated your wife terribly. Not interested.' He ends up living alone in a one bedroom apartment and flirting creepily with the hostess at the sports bar (aka the Big12). Or he ends up broke and in spiraling into debt trying to pay alimony and satisfy a high-maintenance sugar baby.</p><p></p><p>My speculation is that FSU has an over-inflated sense of their own value. They think they are one of the premier brands in the country and the B1G and SEC will have a bidding war over them. That might have been true 10 years ago if they'd left the ACC. But their marginal value to either conference at this point is modest. Maybe the folks at FSU are much smarter than I. Maybe there's some really important information that's not public or in their lawsuit that really changes their calculations. But I've read all of the filings and public info. This just does not seem like a smart business decision at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BCJacket, post: 999647, member: 2332"] This is root of what doesn't make sense to me about what FSU is doing. The FSU fans say the 'B1G told them'... Who told them? When? The B1G commissioner? Some of the B1G presidents? An invite to the conference will require a vote of the Presidents. I can't imagine that they held a secret vote and extended a written contract offer to FSU with a defined payout - not when FSU is bound by a GOR for 10 years without a clear pathway out. Maybe it was a straw-poll hypothetical: 'would you approve FSU for membership if they were available and had their media rights?' But, if so, that was (presumably) before this lawsuit. Before FSU got left out of the playoffs and pitched a s*** fit. Adding FSU ([I]with [/I]their full media rights) would get each school just a few million more per year. Which would be nice, but not a 'must have' for the B1G schools. Saying 'FSU would be a good addition, hypothetically', is one thing. Voting that you want a vindictive, self-important, deep-in-debt, prima donna in your conference for a small percentage pay bump is a different calculation... Which, maybe FSU will agree to a reduced payout to entice the B1G schools to vote them in. But then... what does FSU gain? The B1G schools (full share) get about $20 million more than the ACC. Let's say FSU got a full share. They borrow $500 million from private equity (a low estimate) to pay off the ACC and get out. Private equity wants to make big money, it won't be a low interest rate. But let's say they get 7%, which would be a very good rate right now. That's $35 million in interest, every year. FSU would [I]lose [/I]$15 million a year vs the ACC. But, most likely, they're not getting a full share... Most likely, the interest rate will be more like 10%... Which makes that math even worse for them. Even if the B1G payout rises, they'd have a lot of ground to make up just to break even. I feel like FSU is going to be the guy who's married to a good woman. But the younger prettier girl at work joked that his wife is so lucky and she wished she could find a guy like him... Bro leaves his wife and goes through a nasty divorce. Loses his house, money and dignity. Now the pretty girl says: 'You're a broke, mean, selfish jerk who treated your wife terribly. Not interested.' He ends up living alone in a one bedroom apartment and flirting creepily with the hostess at the sports bar (aka the Big12). Or he ends up broke and in spiraling into debt trying to pay alimony and satisfy a high-maintenance sugar baby. My speculation is that FSU has an over-inflated sense of their own value. They think they are one of the premier brands in the country and the B1G and SEC will have a bidding war over them. That might have been true 10 years ago if they'd left the ACC. But their marginal value to either conference at this point is modest. Maybe the folks at FSU are much smarter than I. Maybe there's some really important information that's not public or in their lawsuit that really changes their calculations. But I've read all of the filings and public info. This just does not seem like a smart business decision at all. [/QUOTE]
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