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<blockquote data-quote="Northeast Stinger" data-source="post: 995443" data-attributes="member: 1640"><p>Sometimes you have to overstate your case to make a point. Perhaps you are doing that.</p><p></p><p>But here’s the point. The SEC has been overstating their case for 40 years or more, and, as you pointed out, it worked. FSU is now overstating there case. And something may change as a result.</p><p></p><p>Yep, the ACC has been screwed for a long time. The proof of that is the low esteem many of our fans walk around with. They suggest, in so many words, that Tech deserves to be in the ACC because it’s a crappy league for crappy teams. Others periodically bring up dropping Tech down a division or just giving up on ever competing again at the highest level. Still others will argue that we should be in the B1G or that the biggest mistake in the history of GT sports was leaving the SEC. To be sure, most of us would be happy in the ACC if the conference ever got its act together and started getting some respect. Nobody believes everything is currently hunky dory in the ACC.</p><p></p><p>But the proof of your argument, well stated, is that B1G members and SEC members don’t complain much and don’t have endless conversations about leaving the conference.</p><p></p><p>So much to dislike about FSU. So much about their current case is unseemly and vulgar. But the ACC brought this on itself by constantly allowing itself to be talked down to, never getting its marketing act together, and never standing up for its teams. The current conference scandal is not something that happens in the SEC or the B1G.</p><p></p><p>My only question is whether this latest conference scandal is actually just business as usual for the ACC or whether the status quo is starting to change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Northeast Stinger, post: 995443, member: 1640"] Sometimes you have to overstate your case to make a point. Perhaps you are doing that. But here’s the point. The SEC has been overstating their case for 40 years or more, and, as you pointed out, it worked. FSU is now overstating there case. And something may change as a result. Yep, the ACC has been screwed for a long time. The proof of that is the low esteem many of our fans walk around with. They suggest, in so many words, that Tech deserves to be in the ACC because it’s a crappy league for crappy teams. Others periodically bring up dropping Tech down a division or just giving up on ever competing again at the highest level. Still others will argue that we should be in the B1G or that the biggest mistake in the history of GT sports was leaving the SEC. To be sure, most of us would be happy in the ACC if the conference ever got its act together and started getting some respect. Nobody believes everything is currently hunky dory in the ACC. But the proof of your argument, well stated, is that B1G members and SEC members don’t complain much and don’t have endless conversations about leaving the conference. So much to dislike about FSU. So much about their current case is unseemly and vulgar. But the ACC brought this on itself by constantly allowing itself to be talked down to, never getting its marketing act together, and never standing up for its teams. The current conference scandal is not something that happens in the SEC or the B1G. My only question is whether this latest conference scandal is actually just business as usual for the ACC or whether the status quo is starting to change. [/QUOTE]
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