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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 994682" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>I don't see the ACC as a dead conference walking.</p><p>I don't see it as a Top 2 conference now or in the future. It hasn't been that for a decade and the way the college environment changed it was unlikely to ever be that. </p><p>ACC is likely to survive partially due to ND. Say the worst scenario for the ACC happens and 6-7 teams ultimately leave. That still leaves 9-10 teams plus ND. ND has no intention of joining a conference and with the new CFP structure has even less incentive to ever do so. It needs a place to have all its other sports and the ACC is the best fit for it - so it would likely stay with the ACC even with some of its biggest brands leaving. The issue then would be do the ACC and B12 stay as independent conferences or do they form one.</p><p></p><p>I don't see FSU as likely prevailing in a lawsuit. Their lawsuit barely even mentions any legal statutes - I think 2 are mentioned over 6 counts. Mostly its a bunch of word soup.</p><p>FSU is hoping that it can get out without crippling debt and hope that 1 of the P2 want it bad enough to give them a full share. There are alot of assumptions in there that may not pan out.</p><p>Note I read an article where both FOX and ESPN are rooting for ACC in this matter. They negotiate with conferences - if GoR's are determined to be legally unenforceable then it makes it more difficult for them as they would not know who is going to be in the media contract year to year. </p><p></p><p>2019 was the last time the ACC had a team good enough to be in the CFP. FSU would have been in it this year if Travis didn't get hurt.</p><p></p><p>It feels like long term we are moving to a 2 league power structure. The FOX league and the ESPN league. If that happens GT is likely one of the last in or first out of those leagues.</p><p></p><p>FSU, instead of constantly bad mouthing the ACC - which it has done for years, could have been working to make it stronger. Note, when FSU was really mediocre it wasn't complaining, only in the last 2 years as it has performed better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 994682, member: 1776"] I don't see the ACC as a dead conference walking. I don't see it as a Top 2 conference now or in the future. It hasn't been that for a decade and the way the college environment changed it was unlikely to ever be that. ACC is likely to survive partially due to ND. Say the worst scenario for the ACC happens and 6-7 teams ultimately leave. That still leaves 9-10 teams plus ND. ND has no intention of joining a conference and with the new CFP structure has even less incentive to ever do so. It needs a place to have all its other sports and the ACC is the best fit for it - so it would likely stay with the ACC even with some of its biggest brands leaving. The issue then would be do the ACC and B12 stay as independent conferences or do they form one. I don't see FSU as likely prevailing in a lawsuit. Their lawsuit barely even mentions any legal statutes - I think 2 are mentioned over 6 counts. Mostly its a bunch of word soup. FSU is hoping that it can get out without crippling debt and hope that 1 of the P2 want it bad enough to give them a full share. There are alot of assumptions in there that may not pan out. Note I read an article where both FOX and ESPN are rooting for ACC in this matter. They negotiate with conferences - if GoR's are determined to be legally unenforceable then it makes it more difficult for them as they would not know who is going to be in the media contract year to year. 2019 was the last time the ACC had a team good enough to be in the CFP. FSU would have been in it this year if Travis didn't get hurt. It feels like long term we are moving to a 2 league power structure. The FOX league and the ESPN league. If that happens GT is likely one of the last in or first out of those leagues. FSU, instead of constantly bad mouthing the ACC - which it has done for years, could have been working to make it stronger. Note, when FSU was really mediocre it wasn't complaining, only in the last 2 years as it has performed better. [/QUOTE]
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