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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 975721" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>ACC did look into Oregon and Washington after the USC/UCLA announcement. This was well covered at the time.</p><p>It was not financially additive, so it was not pursued.</p><p></p><p>This was a year before the PAC12 fell part and before everyone realized schools would move for less than full shares.</p><p></p><p>Fans need to remember how all this progressed. Only once it became clear that the money was not there for non-streaming PAC media contract did these schools decide to jump and were willing to jump for almost any conference that had a non-streaming media contract.</p><p></p><p>OR and WA ultimately jumped to a B1G offer that was basically less than 1/2 of a full share. (I suspect they basically went to the B1G and asked what would they be willing to give them to move).</p><p>The 4 corners schools jumped on a full share B12 offer that was less than what they were initially expecting the PAC media offer to be.</p><p>Stanford, Cal, and SMU all jumped to the ACC with a less than 1/2 share offer.</p><p>The 4 new G5 schools in the B12 all took less than full share offers.</p><p></p><p>Right now we are simply in a new place monetarily. A place were the money does not exist for schools to jump to another P5 conference and get a full share. Sankey said a couple of months ago that they would only expand if they saw a program that was worth a full share and right now they don't see any programs worth a full share. </p><p></p><p>This is why I believe right now that the whole 'ACC is dying or ACC schools are going to depart' is currently a false narrative. Alot of fans (and some administrators) have an inflated sense of what they could get if they tried to change conferences. </p><p>In 5 years this could be very different - maybe the money will be there for full shares, or it could go the other way and new contracts could actually be worse than what conferences will expect - no way to know until we get there.</p><p></p><p>The market has screamed pretty loud at what a good P5 program is worth right now. It appears to be around $30M per year. (OR and WA got $30M for their first year in the B1G with $1M increases for each of the next 6 years). The 4 corners schools got a share that is worth an avg of $31.7M over the course of the media contract. Which means in year 1 they are probably getting something closer to the mid-20's. Maybe a little higher.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 975721, member: 1776"] ACC did look into Oregon and Washington after the USC/UCLA announcement. This was well covered at the time. It was not financially additive, so it was not pursued. This was a year before the PAC12 fell part and before everyone realized schools would move for less than full shares. Fans need to remember how all this progressed. Only once it became clear that the money was not there for non-streaming PAC media contract did these schools decide to jump and were willing to jump for almost any conference that had a non-streaming media contract. OR and WA ultimately jumped to a B1G offer that was basically less than 1/2 of a full share. (I suspect they basically went to the B1G and asked what would they be willing to give them to move). The 4 corners schools jumped on a full share B12 offer that was less than what they were initially expecting the PAC media offer to be. Stanford, Cal, and SMU all jumped to the ACC with a less than 1/2 share offer. The 4 new G5 schools in the B12 all took less than full share offers. Right now we are simply in a new place monetarily. A place were the money does not exist for schools to jump to another P5 conference and get a full share. Sankey said a couple of months ago that they would only expand if they saw a program that was worth a full share and right now they don't see any programs worth a full share. This is why I believe right now that the whole 'ACC is dying or ACC schools are going to depart' is currently a false narrative. Alot of fans (and some administrators) have an inflated sense of what they could get if they tried to change conferences. In 5 years this could be very different - maybe the money will be there for full shares, or it could go the other way and new contracts could actually be worse than what conferences will expect - no way to know until we get there. The market has screamed pretty loud at what a good P5 program is worth right now. It appears to be around $30M per year. (OR and WA got $30M for their first year in the B1G with $1M increases for each of the next 6 years). The 4 corners schools got a share that is worth an avg of $31.7M over the course of the media contract. Which means in year 1 they are probably getting something closer to the mid-20's. Maybe a little higher. [/QUOTE]
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