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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 954895" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>SMU was prepared to buy its way into the PAC. It is now prepared to buy its way into the ACC.</p><p>Given they are willing to forgo money its worth seeing if the financials make sense.</p><p>As has already been shown, ACC is not going to make any move that would dilute the current shares.</p><p></p><p>Some articles</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/california-stanford-interested-in-acc-conference-set-to-evaluate-viability-of-adding-pac-12-teams/[/URL]</p><p>"Cal and Stanford have shown interest in joining the ACC, industry sources tell CBS Sports. What's not known is whether the interest is being reciprocated by the conference."</p><p></p><p>The biggest question in a potential addition of Cal and Stanford by the ACC is whether expanding with those programs would bring enough prominence into the conference to raise the average annual value (AAV) of its media rights contract with ESPN. ACC schools are expected upwards of $40 million from the deal, more than the Big 12 average ($31.7 million) but significantly less than their peers in the Big Ten and SEC.</p><p></p><p></p><p>SDSU's failed attempt to create a new P5 conference.</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/san-diego-state-fails-in-attempt-to-create-new-power-five-conference-with-pac-12-mountain-west-aac-members/[/URL]</p><p>I think this is the important quote from the article</p><p>"Does it make sense to take the best of the American, remaining Pac and best of the Mountain West and create a new conference that [would] potentially fight for A5 designation? In general, I think it does," an industry source said. "I just am not sure what value that would bring from a network standpoint. <strong>ESPN and Fox … have already spent their money</strong>."</p><p></p><p></p><p>ESPN Story, lots under discussion. ACC schools that want to leave don't appear to have anywhere to go right now. </p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38158340/acc-presidents-meet-no-vote-conference-evaluating-stanford-cal[/URL]</p><p>"I think the undercurrent is that this is clearly evolving," one ACC source said of the collegiate landscape. "For us to sit here and say it's not going to evolve, or be different than what it is today, would be really shortsighted. I'm not sure what schools are going to do, but to sit here and say it's going to be static -- that isn't happening."</p><p></p><p>Without the move being significantly financially additive, the support is far from unanimous. The cost of travel would need to be addressed, as the idea of Stanford and Cal getting less than a full share has been discussed. Some of that money could be shifted to travel costs.</p><p></p><p><strong>The ACC schools exploring exiting also do not appear to have anywhere to immediately go</strong>, which layers the move in complications. </p><p></p><p>That leaves the other ACC schools seeking some security, which both Cal and Stanford would represent as strong academic schools with established brands and athletic departments.</p><p></p><p>"The value equation isn't always tied to money," an ACC source told ESPN. "Are we really going to sit here and say two of the best institutions in the world have no value? That's a crazy notion to me."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Finally, Sankey basically telling FSU they don't have a home in the SEC without bringing in a whole share - which FSU doesn't.</p><p>[MEDIA=twitter]1689040094723022857[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>I think Sankey is basically saying the financial truth that so many fans and schools simply want to disregard and pretend is not something that has to be thought about. There are very few schools that could jump to the Big 2 and get a full share. SEC is saying it won't take anyone unless they get a full share. B1G has shown it is willing to expand if you are willing to put yourself at a huge disadvantage against your new conference mates. Neither are going to consider taking an ACC School until they have extricated themselves from the legal issues. </p><p>The fact, as shown in one of the articles above that the programmers don't really have more money to spend, greatly limits any movement options right now.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It feels like if the ACC can find a way to add some combination of Stanford, Cal and SMU without it diluting current shares then it will probably happen.</p><p>If it requires schools taking a pay cut, then it doesn't. </p><p></p><p>Maybe the most likely outcome right now is that ACC adds some combination of those 3 at less than full shares and it able to increase its total media payout slightly due to ACC Network carriage. But honestly, who knows.</p><p></p><p>Honestly i'd take FSU's money right now. Given they would owe the ACC over $500M. SEC is making it clear it doesn't see them as offering a full share, which means their only option is going to be the B1G, probably at a share close to what they are receiving from the ACC already and certainly not enough to cover any huge buyout they would have to make.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 954895, member: 1776"] SMU was prepared to buy its way into the PAC. It is now prepared to buy its way into the ACC. Given they are willing to forgo money its worth seeing if the financials make sense. As has already been shown, ACC is not going to make any move that would dilute the current shares. Some articles [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/california-stanford-interested-in-acc-conference-set-to-evaluate-viability-of-adding-pac-12-teams/[/URL] "Cal and Stanford have shown interest in joining the ACC, industry sources tell CBS Sports. What's not known is whether the interest is being reciprocated by the conference." The biggest question in a potential addition of Cal and Stanford by the ACC is whether expanding with those programs would bring enough prominence into the conference to raise the average annual value (AAV) of its media rights contract with ESPN. ACC schools are expected upwards of $40 million from the deal, more than the Big 12 average ($31.7 million) but significantly less than their peers in the Big Ten and SEC. SDSU's failed attempt to create a new P5 conference. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/san-diego-state-fails-in-attempt-to-create-new-power-five-conference-with-pac-12-mountain-west-aac-members/[/URL] I think this is the important quote from the article "Does it make sense to take the best of the American, remaining Pac and best of the Mountain West and create a new conference that [would] potentially fight for A5 designation? In general, I think it does," an industry source said. "I just am not sure what value that would bring from a network standpoint. [B]ESPN and Fox … have already spent their money[/B]." ESPN Story, lots under discussion. ACC schools that want to leave don't appear to have anywhere to go right now. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38158340/acc-presidents-meet-no-vote-conference-evaluating-stanford-cal[/URL] "I think the undercurrent is that this is clearly evolving," one ACC source said of the collegiate landscape. "For us to sit here and say it's not going to evolve, or be different than what it is today, would be really shortsighted. I'm not sure what schools are going to do, but to sit here and say it's going to be static -- that isn't happening." Without the move being significantly financially additive, the support is far from unanimous. The cost of travel would need to be addressed, as the idea of Stanford and Cal getting less than a full share has been discussed. Some of that money could be shifted to travel costs. [B]The ACC schools exploring exiting also do not appear to have anywhere to immediately go[/B], which layers the move in complications. That leaves the other ACC schools seeking some security, which both Cal and Stanford would represent as strong academic schools with established brands and athletic departments. "The value equation isn't always tied to money," an ACC source told ESPN. "Are we really going to sit here and say two of the best institutions in the world have no value? That's a crazy notion to me." Finally, Sankey basically telling FSU they don't have a home in the SEC without bringing in a whole share - which FSU doesn't. [MEDIA=twitter]1689040094723022857[/MEDIA] I think Sankey is basically saying the financial truth that so many fans and schools simply want to disregard and pretend is not something that has to be thought about. There are very few schools that could jump to the Big 2 and get a full share. SEC is saying it won't take anyone unless they get a full share. B1G has shown it is willing to expand if you are willing to put yourself at a huge disadvantage against your new conference mates. Neither are going to consider taking an ACC School until they have extricated themselves from the legal issues. The fact, as shown in one of the articles above that the programmers don't really have more money to spend, greatly limits any movement options right now. It feels like if the ACC can find a way to add some combination of Stanford, Cal and SMU without it diluting current shares then it will probably happen. If it requires schools taking a pay cut, then it doesn't. Maybe the most likely outcome right now is that ACC adds some combination of those 3 at less than full shares and it able to increase its total media payout slightly due to ACC Network carriage. But honestly, who knows. Honestly i'd take FSU's money right now. Given they would owe the ACC over $500M. SEC is making it clear it doesn't see them as offering a full share, which means their only option is going to be the B1G, probably at a share close to what they are receiving from the ACC already and certainly not enough to cover any huge buyout they would have to make. [/QUOTE]
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