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<blockquote data-quote="JacketOff" data-source="post: 886681" data-attributes="member: 4572"><p>Once again for the folks who don’t understand </p><p>🗣 “More money does not equal more success. Especially when you move into a pool where everyone else still has more money than you”</p><p></p><p>Here’s Nebraska:</p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td></td><td>Yeah</td><td>Conf</td><td>Wins</td><td>Losses</td><td>ConfW</td><td>ConfL</td><td></td></tr><tr><th>2</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2021.html" target="_blank">2021</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2021.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>3</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>8</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>3</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2020.html" target="_blank">2020</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2020.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>3</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><td>5</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>4</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2019.html" target="_blank">2019</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2019.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>5</td><td>7</td><td>3</td><td>6</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>5</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2018.html" target="_blank">2018</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2018.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>4</td><td>8</td><td>3</td><td>6</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>6</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2017.html" target="_blank">2017</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2017.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>4</td><td>8</td><td>3</td><td>6</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>7</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2016.html" target="_blank">2016</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2016.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>9</td><td>4</td><td>6</td><td>3</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>8</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2015.html" target="_blank">2015</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2015.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>3</td><td>5</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>9</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2014.html" target="_blank">2014</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2014.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>9</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>10</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2013.html" target="_blank">2013</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2013.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>9</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>11</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2012.html" target="_blank">2012</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2012.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>10</td><td>4</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>12</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2011.html" target="_blank">2011</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2011.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>9</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><th></th></tr><tr><th>13</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2010.html" target="_blank">2010</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-12/2010.html" target="_blank">Big 12</a></td><td>10</td><td>4</td><th>6</th><th>2</th><th></th></tr></table><p></p><p>Here’s Maryland:</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2021.html" target="_blank">2021</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2021.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>7</td><td>6</td><td></td><td>.538</td><td>3</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>.333</td><td>3.44</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><th>3</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2020.html" target="_blank">2020</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2020.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>0</td><td>.400</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>0</td><td>.400</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><th>4</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2019.html" target="_blank">2019</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2019.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>3</td><td>9</td><td>0</td><td>.250</td><td>1</td><td>8</td><td>0</td><td>.111</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><th>5</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2018.html" target="_blank">2018</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2018.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>5</td><td>7</td><td>0</td><td>.417</td><td>3</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>.333</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><th>6</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2017.html" target="_blank">2017</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2017.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>4</td><td>8</td><td>0</td><td>.333</td><td>2</td><td>7</td><td>0</td><td>.222</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><th>7</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2016.html" target="_blank">2016</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2016.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>0</td><td>.462</td><td>3</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>.333</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><th>8</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2015.html" target="_blank">2015</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2015.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>3</td><td>9</td><td>0</td><td>.250</td><td>1</td><td>7</td><td>0</td><td>.125</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><th>9</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2014.html" target="_blank">2014</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2014.html" target="_blank">Big Ten</a></td><td>7</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>.538</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>0</td><td>.500</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><th>10</th><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2013.html" target="_blank">2013</a></td><td><a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/acc/2013.html" target="_blank">ACC</a></td><td>7</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>.538</td><td>3</td><td>5</td><td>0</td><td>.375</td><th></th><th></th></tr></table><p></p><p>Both schools are bringing in double what the ACC pays out, and double what they were both receiving in conference revenue before they shifted conferences. Yet both of their programs have been in a severe downturn since the change. Why? Because they went to a much, much bigger pond. </p><p></p><p>Missouri who finished 3 of their last 4 seasons in the Big 12 ranked, and even got up to #1 and finished 12-2 in 2007 has more losing seasons than ranked finishes in the SEC. They’ve only had 2 seasons in the SEC with a conference record better than .500, and in 5 out of their 10 seasons in the SEC they have a losing conference record. Also, once a proud basketball program, Mizzou has only made it to the NCAAT 3 times in their 10 SEC season, making it out of the first round just once. “Oh well it’s easier to make staff changes with more money.” Mizzou’s basketball coach was there for 5 years and he has 3 losing seasons. 2 tourney appearances with first round exits as a 9 and 8 seed. </p><p></p><p>Why don’t y’all get that having more revenue doesn’t equal more success? The teams that you’re playing against get <strong><u><em>much</em></u></strong> better and we’d still be on the bottom of the totem pole money wise. The only difference would be our administrators, coaches, and school faculty would be lining their pockets more. GTs on field success would not change, and if anything it might get worse. We’ve already seen it happen. Of all the programs who shifted conferences in the last phase of realignment, Texas A&M is really the only one who has garnered any sort of success. But they were already a massive brand and program anyway. GT is neither. Same with Colorado, Maryland, Mizzou, Louisville, West Virginia, etc. Only Nebraska could’ve been in the same boat that A&M was, yet Nebraska’s program has tanked since joining the B1G. </p><p></p><p>So yeah, eventually it will become necessary for GT to get into one of the major conferences to continue playing at the highest level. But belly aching about not making the move in 2010 as a missed opportunity isn’t really truthful. We would’ve been a punching bag for everyone in the B1G for years at this point. We would’ve been Rutgers, or hell Maryland. </p><hr /></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JacketOff, post: 886681, member: 4572"] Once again for the folks who don’t understand 🗣 “More money does not equal more success. Especially when you move into a pool where everyone else still has more money than you” Here’s Nebraska: [TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Yeah[/TD] [TD]Conf[/TD] [TD]Wins[/TD] [TD]Losses[/TD] [TD]ConfW[/TD] [TD]ConfL[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]2[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2021.html']2021[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2021.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]3[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2020.html']2020[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2020.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]4[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2019.html']2019[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2019.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]5[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2018.html']2018[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2018.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]6[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2017.html']2017[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2017.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]7[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2016.html']2016[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2016.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]8[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2015.html']2015[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2015.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]9[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2014.html']2014[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2014.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]10[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2013.html']2013[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2013.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]11[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2012.html']2012[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2012.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]12[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2011.html']2011[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2011.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH]13[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/2010.html']2010[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-12/2010.html']Big 12[/URL][/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TH]6[/TH] [TH]2[/TH] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [/TABLE] Here’s Maryland: [TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2021.html']2021[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2021.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD].538[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].333[/TD] [TD]3.44[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]3[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2020.html']2020[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2020.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]2[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].400[/TD] [TD]2[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].400[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]4[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2019.html']2019[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2019.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].250[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].111[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]5[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2018.html']2018[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2018.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].417[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].333[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]6[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2017.html']2017[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2017.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].333[/TD] [TD]2[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].222[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]7[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2016.html']2016[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2016.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].462[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].333[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]8[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2015.html']2015[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2015.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].250[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].125[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]9[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2014.html']2014[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/2014.html']Big Ten[/URL][/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].538[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].500[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]10[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/maryland/2013.html']2013[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/acc/2013.html']ACC[/URL][/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].538[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD].375[/TD] [TH][/TH] [TH][/TH] [/TR] [/TABLE] Both schools are bringing in double what the ACC pays out, and double what they were both receiving in conference revenue before they shifted conferences. Yet both of their programs have been in a severe downturn since the change. Why? Because they went to a much, much bigger pond. Missouri who finished 3 of their last 4 seasons in the Big 12 ranked, and even got up to #1 and finished 12-2 in 2007 has more losing seasons than ranked finishes in the SEC. They’ve only had 2 seasons in the SEC with a conference record better than .500, and in 5 out of their 10 seasons in the SEC they have a losing conference record. Also, once a proud basketball program, Mizzou has only made it to the NCAAT 3 times in their 10 SEC season, making it out of the first round just once. “Oh well it’s easier to make staff changes with more money.” Mizzou’s basketball coach was there for 5 years and he has 3 losing seasons. 2 tourney appearances with first round exits as a 9 and 8 seed. Why don’t y’all get that having more revenue doesn’t equal more success? The teams that you’re playing against get [B][U][I]much[/I][/U][/B] better and we’d still be on the bottom of the totem pole money wise. The only difference would be our administrators, coaches, and school faculty would be lining their pockets more. GTs on field success would not change, and if anything it might get worse. We’ve already seen it happen. Of all the programs who shifted conferences in the last phase of realignment, Texas A&M is really the only one who has garnered any sort of success. But they were already a massive brand and program anyway. GT is neither. Same with Colorado, Maryland, Mizzou, Louisville, West Virginia, etc. Only Nebraska could’ve been in the same boat that A&M was, yet Nebraska’s program has tanked since joining the B1G. So yeah, eventually it will become necessary for GT to get into one of the major conferences to continue playing at the highest level. But belly aching about not making the move in 2010 as a missed opportunity isn’t really truthful. We would’ve been a punching bag for everyone in the B1G for years at this point. We would’ve been Rutgers, or hell Maryland. [HR][/HR] [/QUOTE]
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