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<blockquote data-quote="Techster" data-source="post: 881735" data-attributes="member: 360"><p>No one is getting kicked out of the SEC or B1G regardless of how putrid their programs are at the moment. The B1G especially will not abandon members. Of all the "big" conferences, the B1G actually conducts themselves with a sense of decency and code of ethics. Besides, you can't have a conference full of elite teams...there needs to be cannon fodder for the rich to pad their record. It also is counterintuitive to the whole purpose of the next phase of expansion: National level conference and media deals.</p><p></p><p>Anyone who thinks USC and UCLA reached out to B1G and not the other way around...well, let's just say I have beachfront property in Topeka Kansas to sell you. USC and UCLA have been livid about the leadership of the PAC12 for years now due to the bad media contract. They thought their last conference commissioner was going to lead them to contracts equivalent to what B1G and SEC were getting. USC and UCLA rumors have been going on for a while now and I mentioned it in another thread a few months back. As soon and Texas and Oklahoma went to the SEC, everyone in the media looked out west at USC and UCLA making the next jump, and the B1G has always been in the driver's seat for it. There have been "back channel" talks with conferences and marquess programs going on for a while now.</p><p></p><p>On to GT being left out. GT is already struggling to maintain our status as a P5 team. We already made a strategic error years ago by turning the B1G down (decades after Dodd's Folly), and if we turn them down again for fear of "not being able to compete with the more well funded (and well managed) programs", well we're going to deserve everything that happens. If we get left out of the SEC and B1G conference, you can pretty much say goodbye to GT being relevant again. We're paying on debt for P5 facilities, what happens when GT and whatever reminents of the ACC and some other conference can't command the same TV contract anymore? Do you think donors will be as willing to pony up money to fund a GA Southern/GA State/Middle Tennessee level program? Do you think anyone outside of GT alumni will even care to come to games or support the team? We're definitely not going to attract good coaches or recruits. We're already getting bare minimum support from sidewalk fans, imagine how much harder it'll be outside of the "Big 2" conferences. Do some of you believe once the marquee programs in the ACC jump to the B1G and SEC the remaining programs will be able to ask for a same amount of media money?</p><p></p><p>Bottom line, GT is heading into uncharted territory. I'm not old enough to remember GT wandering the wilderness after we left the SEC and before joining the ACC, but GT's athletic program was almost destroyed. A lot of us are GT fans because of the national championship in 1990, the SEC wars/SEC titles when we were an SEC member, ACC titles in football and basketball, Final Four runs, ACC Championship games, high level athletes (Kenny Anderson, Calvin Johnson, Joe Hamilton, Stephon Marburn, Jarrett Jack, Chris Bosh,etc). What happens when all of that is gone? Look no further than GA State. People already hate coming to GT because of parking and location downtown. Imagine trudging yourself and your family into Atlanta without the benefit of seeing a Clemson/UGA/FSU/UNC/Duke/etc. Instead you get some former FCS or D2 team. GT will be become a team other teams pay to travel to them on opening day or homecoming. Yes, some of us will continue to do so because we love GT and we've been fans forever, but once the national conference start taking affect, and GT is out in the cold, our numbers will dwindle drastically as time goes on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Techster, post: 881735, member: 360"] No one is getting kicked out of the SEC or B1G regardless of how putrid their programs are at the moment. The B1G especially will not abandon members. Of all the "big" conferences, the B1G actually conducts themselves with a sense of decency and code of ethics. Besides, you can't have a conference full of elite teams...there needs to be cannon fodder for the rich to pad their record. It also is counterintuitive to the whole purpose of the next phase of expansion: National level conference and media deals. Anyone who thinks USC and UCLA reached out to B1G and not the other way around...well, let's just say I have beachfront property in Topeka Kansas to sell you. USC and UCLA have been livid about the leadership of the PAC12 for years now due to the bad media contract. They thought their last conference commissioner was going to lead them to contracts equivalent to what B1G and SEC were getting. USC and UCLA rumors have been going on for a while now and I mentioned it in another thread a few months back. As soon and Texas and Oklahoma went to the SEC, everyone in the media looked out west at USC and UCLA making the next jump, and the B1G has always been in the driver's seat for it. There have been "back channel" talks with conferences and marquess programs going on for a while now. On to GT being left out. GT is already struggling to maintain our status as a P5 team. We already made a strategic error years ago by turning the B1G down (decades after Dodd's Folly), and if we turn them down again for fear of "not being able to compete with the more well funded (and well managed) programs", well we're going to deserve everything that happens. If we get left out of the SEC and B1G conference, you can pretty much say goodbye to GT being relevant again. We're paying on debt for P5 facilities, what happens when GT and whatever reminents of the ACC and some other conference can't command the same TV contract anymore? Do you think donors will be as willing to pony up money to fund a GA Southern/GA State/Middle Tennessee level program? Do you think anyone outside of GT alumni will even care to come to games or support the team? We're definitely not going to attract good coaches or recruits. We're already getting bare minimum support from sidewalk fans, imagine how much harder it'll be outside of the "Big 2" conferences. Do some of you believe once the marquee programs in the ACC jump to the B1G and SEC the remaining programs will be able to ask for a same amount of media money? Bottom line, GT is heading into uncharted territory. I'm not old enough to remember GT wandering the wilderness after we left the SEC and before joining the ACC, but GT's athletic program was almost destroyed. A lot of us are GT fans because of the national championship in 1990, the SEC wars/SEC titles when we were an SEC member, ACC titles in football and basketball, Final Four runs, ACC Championship games, high level athletes (Kenny Anderson, Calvin Johnson, Joe Hamilton, Stephon Marburn, Jarrett Jack, Chris Bosh,etc). What happens when all of that is gone? Look no further than GA State. People already hate coming to GT because of parking and location downtown. Imagine trudging yourself and your family into Atlanta without the benefit of seeing a Clemson/UGA/FSU/UNC/Duke/etc. Instead you get some former FCS or D2 team. GT will be become a team other teams pay to travel to them on opening day or homecoming. Yes, some of us will continue to do so because we love GT and we've been fans forever, but once the national conference start taking affect, and GT is out in the cold, our numbers will dwindle drastically as time goes on. [/QUOTE]
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