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<blockquote data-quote="jacketup" data-source="post: 806617" data-attributes="member: 630"><p>There is are 3 philosophies, and none are what you state.</p><p></p><p>The first is getting a high ranking in US News. While schools deny that they care, they do, and they try to check those US News boxes. State schools have to satisfy the politicians, so they have some hurdles in doing so, but they try. Tech is chasing that ranking. Tech denies it. </p><p></p><p>The second philosophy is making money. That philosophy exists with for profit schools, but some state schools will chase the out of state tuition--- if their politicians will let them-- since it means denying in- state students.</p><p></p><p>The third philosophy is let them in and see who survives. This was the Tech philosophy until the last 20 years or so when US News rankings came about. Tech let in students with potential, but didn't care a whole lot about "teaching them —[or] giving them life time experiences and skills" to quote your post. Survival of the fittest--or the more diligent. </p><p></p><p>What Tech is currently doing is a blend between your first philosophy (gotta chase the ranking) and your second philosophy, but it is still about chasing that ranking. And that's what most "top ranked" schools are doing. Personally, I believe the US News rankings are BS. But it would take more bandwith to explain why. It doesn't matter, because the gullible public wants to believe them. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, your points about athletes and school reputatation aren't valid. Clemson has seen an increase in more qualified applicants as their football rankings have improved. The football program has improved the school. And it's not because Dabo has "coached them up." The Clemson model is completely counter to your position. As one school president said, the football program is the front porch of the school. It's what people see. And perception is more important than reality. Unfortunately.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jacketup, post: 806617, member: 630"] There is are 3 philosophies, and none are what you state. The first is getting a high ranking in US News. While schools deny that they care, they do, and they try to check those US News boxes. State schools have to satisfy the politicians, so they have some hurdles in doing so, but they try. Tech is chasing that ranking. Tech denies it. The second philosophy is making money. That philosophy exists with for profit schools, but some state schools will chase the out of state tuition--- if their politicians will let them-- since it means denying in- state students. The third philosophy is let them in and see who survives. This was the Tech philosophy until the last 20 years or so when US News rankings came about. Tech let in students with potential, but didn't care a whole lot about "teaching them —[or] giving them life time experiences and skills" to quote your post. Survival of the fittest--or the more diligent. What Tech is currently doing is a blend between your first philosophy (gotta chase the ranking) and your second philosophy, but it is still about chasing that ranking. And that's what most "top ranked" schools are doing. Personally, I believe the US News rankings are BS. But it would take more bandwith to explain why. It doesn't matter, because the gullible public wants to believe them. Anyway, your points about athletes and school reputatation aren't valid. Clemson has seen an increase in more qualified applicants as their football rankings have improved. The football program has improved the school. And it's not because Dabo has "coached them up." The Clemson model is completely counter to your position. As one school president said, the football program is the front porch of the school. It's what people see. And perception is more important than reality. Unfortunately. [/QUOTE]
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