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<blockquote data-quote="jacketup" data-source="post: 806564" data-attributes="member: 630"><p>The so called metric for admission that "considers the whole person" is code for being subjective and arbitrary. I've been through the admission process with 2 kids in the last 4 years, and I know of what I speak. Many of those "metrics" are politically driven and compromise student body quality more than 20-25 football scholarships a year.</p><p></p><p>And if you think that Tech's academics overall are like they were 30-50 years ago, you haven't kept up. The average undergrad GPA is something like 3.3, and Tech has liberal arts majors. It's still a tough place for engineering and science majors--but not as tough as it used to be, and that's not what jocks major in anyway. The 6 year graduation rate is like 87%, which Tech deems to be important. That's a change in attitude from days gone by. The flunk out culture that used to exist is gone--which is a good thing. (I wasn't a Clough fan, but I give him credit for changing that culture). If you've been keeping track, we have far fewer players with academic issues than we used to have--in fact, it's relatively rare. The rising tide lifted all boats--or in this case--students. </p><p></p><p>Bottom line--20 or so football recruits who wouldn't get in as regular students isn't going to compromise a student body of around 40, 000 (17,000 undergrads). We may look harder at academics for recruits than SEC schools, but it's not as different as you suggest. We'd love to have 4-5 star players per class, but admissions is not the reason we haven't been getting them. We do require players to go to class, unlike, for example, Clemson, that is in our own conference (I read an interview a few years ago with 2 Clemson players about their typical day--neither mentioned class or school work. At least UNC made a pretense of it.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jacketup, post: 806564, member: 630"] The so called metric for admission that "considers the whole person" is code for being subjective and arbitrary. I've been through the admission process with 2 kids in the last 4 years, and I know of what I speak. Many of those "metrics" are politically driven and compromise student body quality more than 20-25 football scholarships a year. And if you think that Tech's academics overall are like they were 30-50 years ago, you haven't kept up. The average undergrad GPA is something like 3.3, and Tech has liberal arts majors. It's still a tough place for engineering and science majors--but not as tough as it used to be, and that's not what jocks major in anyway. The 6 year graduation rate is like 87%, which Tech deems to be important. That's a change in attitude from days gone by. The flunk out culture that used to exist is gone--which is a good thing. (I wasn't a Clough fan, but I give him credit for changing that culture). If you've been keeping track, we have far fewer players with academic issues than we used to have--in fact, it's relatively rare. The rising tide lifted all boats--or in this case--students. Bottom line--20 or so football recruits who wouldn't get in as regular students isn't going to compromise a student body of around 40, 000 (17,000 undergrads). We may look harder at academics for recruits than SEC schools, but it's not as different as you suggest. We'd love to have 4-5 star players per class, but admissions is not the reason we haven't been getting them. We do require players to go to class, unlike, for example, Clemson, that is in our own conference (I read an interview a few years ago with 2 Clemson players about their typical day--neither mentioned class or school work. At least UNC made a pretense of it.) [/QUOTE]
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