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<blockquote data-quote="cpf2001" data-source="post: 969563" data-attributes="member: 6459"><p>The defense hasn’t been great in a decade but it got worse in 2018 and then somehow managed to get even worse under Collins. Did the 2014-2018 teams have the talent to perform like the Gailey teams on D? Probably not. Did they have the talent to be better than these last few years of defense? Obviously. </p><p></p><p>So has the talent cratered since Johnson’s players graduated? Was Collins simply the worst recruiter ever, worse than even Johnson, who was hardly known as a good recruiter? So has the talent level “literally any other team in the ACC can push them around” bad like games against BG or BC this year?</p><p></p><p>You don’t need a bunch of NFL studs to have a mediocre defense, but we’re staring up at mediocre from “awful” most of the time in the last five years.</p><p></p><p>So that’s the immediate question for Key: why can’t we get to at least mediocre?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cpf2001, post: 969563, member: 6459"] The defense hasn’t been great in a decade but it got worse in 2018 and then somehow managed to get even worse under Collins. Did the 2014-2018 teams have the talent to perform like the Gailey teams on D? Probably not. Did they have the talent to be better than these last few years of defense? Obviously. So has the talent cratered since Johnson’s players graduated? Was Collins simply the worst recruiter ever, worse than even Johnson, who was hardly known as a good recruiter? So has the talent level “literally any other team in the ACC can push them around” bad like games against BG or BC this year? You don’t need a bunch of NFL studs to have a mediocre defense, but we’re staring up at mediocre from “awful” most of the time in the last five years. So that’s the immediate question for Key: why can’t we get to at least mediocre? [/QUOTE]
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