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Book recommendation: Invisible Women - a very well sourced book on bias (specifically gender bias)
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<blockquote data-quote="yrp" data-source="post: 614377" data-attributes="member: 3901"><p>When you say women prefer to be caregivers, then you're ignoring the vast percentage of women that want to continue working but cannot due to employer policies (created assuming that someone else is taking care of the kids). Not enough parental leave, not enough support to new parents, not allowing remote work/flexible hours. These policies make it unfair and harder for caregivers (the vast majority of whom are women) to remain in the workforce. And we haven't even begun to consider the fact that it is mostly women that also perform the unpaid work of elder care. </p><p></p><p>Then when you conform to the gender norms and say that you prefer for the woman to stay home and do all the unpaid labour while the man brings in the cash, the women don't have financial independance. Let's take the bad but all too real case of an abusive relationship. A financially independant person can just leave the relationship. A woman who has to take care of kids and can't get a job cannot leave that relationship because she has literally no other option (and part time jobs pay way less than the same role in a full time capacity, not to mention they are increasingly disappearing and don't provide things like healthcare). </p><p></p><p>You can use anecdotes but they don't counter the fact that a majority of women don't "choose" to be in this unfair position. </p><p></p><p>Honestly, you guys should give the book a shot (again, only read a single chapter if you want) BECAUSE you disagree with it. There's enough data and studies cited there that I'm sure will open your eyes to a wider problem that you haven't had to think about before. It really hurts to see that some people on here don't have the empathy to even consider that this COULD be a societal issue and give the book a try to see if it's solid in its arguments. When such a large amount of people are facing the same problem, I don't think it's all their fault or choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="yrp, post: 614377, member: 3901"] When you say women prefer to be caregivers, then you're ignoring the vast percentage of women that want to continue working but cannot due to employer policies (created assuming that someone else is taking care of the kids). Not enough parental leave, not enough support to new parents, not allowing remote work/flexible hours. These policies make it unfair and harder for caregivers (the vast majority of whom are women) to remain in the workforce. And we haven't even begun to consider the fact that it is mostly women that also perform the unpaid work of elder care. Then when you conform to the gender norms and say that you prefer for the woman to stay home and do all the unpaid labour while the man brings in the cash, the women don't have financial independance. Let's take the bad but all too real case of an abusive relationship. A financially independant person can just leave the relationship. A woman who has to take care of kids and can't get a job cannot leave that relationship because she has literally no other option (and part time jobs pay way less than the same role in a full time capacity, not to mention they are increasingly disappearing and don't provide things like healthcare). You can use anecdotes but they don't counter the fact that a majority of women don't "choose" to be in this unfair position. Honestly, you guys should give the book a shot (again, only read a single chapter if you want) BECAUSE you disagree with it. There's enough data and studies cited there that I'm sure will open your eyes to a wider problem that you haven't had to think about before. It really hurts to see that some people on here don't have the empathy to even consider that this COULD be a societal issue and give the book a try to see if it's solid in its arguments. When such a large amount of people are facing the same problem, I don't think it's all their fault or choice. [/QUOTE]
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