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<blockquote data-quote="leatherneckjacket" data-source="post: 998521" data-attributes="member: 3849"><p>For pitching, WHIP and FIP are more likely used by the new stats fans, because ERA has a lot of noise that comes the ballpark in which you are pitching (Colorado vs. Oakland), the defense behind you (Ozzie Smith or Willie Mays vs, Derek Jeter or Aaron Judge) and how your teammates handle the runners you left on base. Those other two stats normalize for these issues and speak more closely to your individual performance as a pitcher.</p><p></p><p>For batting, batting average tells an incomplete story. A guy who has a high batting but does not walk that much or hit for power is not as valuable as someone who may get hits less frequently, but walks more and gets more total bases. This is why OPS and OPS+ are now being used rather than BA (and RBIs, which are dependant on who gets on base in front of you. For example, if you get a single with Trea Turner on 2nd base, you will get an RBI 99% of the time. but if Giancarlo Stanton is on 2nd base, you get an RBI 0% of the time because he cannot move any more.).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="leatherneckjacket, post: 998521, member: 3849"] For pitching, WHIP and FIP are more likely used by the new stats fans, because ERA has a lot of noise that comes the ballpark in which you are pitching (Colorado vs. Oakland), the defense behind you (Ozzie Smith or Willie Mays vs, Derek Jeter or Aaron Judge) and how your teammates handle the runners you left on base. Those other two stats normalize for these issues and speak more closely to your individual performance as a pitcher. For batting, batting average tells an incomplete story. A guy who has a high batting but does not walk that much or hit for power is not as valuable as someone who may get hits less frequently, but walks more and gets more total bases. This is why OPS and OPS+ are now being used rather than BA (and RBIs, which are dependant on who gets on base in front of you. For example, if you get a single with Trea Turner on 2nd base, you will get an RBI 99% of the time. but if Giancarlo Stanton is on 2nd base, you get an RBI 0% of the time because he cannot move any more.). [/QUOTE]
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