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Attn: Ibeeballin. Would like your thoughts on Pin and Pull
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<blockquote data-quote="ilovetheoption" data-source="post: 731198" data-attributes="member: 1414"><p>Hey man, I'm also helping out with the passing game this year, and want to know what you'd call a certain play.</p><p></p><p>You may remember, we line up in the Paul Johnson formation, except instead of a fullback behind center, we have a tailback 6-7 yards deep, and instead of motioning little guys around the back, we shuffle motion H back types into the lead position, so we can run power/counter/iso/etc, while still presenting 4 verts pre-snap to threaten anybody who comes at us with a 1 high look.</p><p></p><p>We have these guys labled H and Y, and when we don't motion, we end up with 2 receivers per side plus a tailback.</p><p></p><p>SO, we run 4 verts, and Y-stick and Mesh (which are basically the same play, one is just a little quicker than the other).</p><p></p><p>So, I'd like to run that playside linebacker off some, so I want to run sort of like a dagger concept, where we run a seam route with the playside Y, and bring the H across on a shallow cross. </p><p></p><p>Unlike a dagger, though, we're nto going to Hi/Lo with the split end on the Dig route. Rather, we're going to have him go vertical, and send the TB out into the flat, so the read is exactly the same as Mesh and YStick for the QB. He's reading the Outside linebacker from the Slotback to the TB in the flat.</p><p></p><p>The difference is that by running the Y up the seam, we're hoping to push the LB a few steps further back and then run the cross underneath him. Ideally this would do 2 things</p><p>1) Make it a pretty easy read to the flat</p><p>2)Make that linebacker a little bit hesitant to get so deep in his drop, which ought to create a bigger window for 4 verts, which is what we WANT to throw.</p><p></p><p>So, it's nto quite Dagger, it's not quite Drive.</p><p></p><p>What would you call that?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ilovetheoption, post: 731198, member: 1414"] Hey man, I'm also helping out with the passing game this year, and want to know what you'd call a certain play. You may remember, we line up in the Paul Johnson formation, except instead of a fullback behind center, we have a tailback 6-7 yards deep, and instead of motioning little guys around the back, we shuffle motion H back types into the lead position, so we can run power/counter/iso/etc, while still presenting 4 verts pre-snap to threaten anybody who comes at us with a 1 high look. We have these guys labled H and Y, and when we don't motion, we end up with 2 receivers per side plus a tailback. SO, we run 4 verts, and Y-stick and Mesh (which are basically the same play, one is just a little quicker than the other). So, I'd like to run that playside linebacker off some, so I want to run sort of like a dagger concept, where we run a seam route with the playside Y, and bring the H across on a shallow cross. Unlike a dagger, though, we're nto going to Hi/Lo with the split end on the Dig route. Rather, we're going to have him go vertical, and send the TB out into the flat, so the read is exactly the same as Mesh and YStick for the QB. He's reading the Outside linebacker from the Slotback to the TB in the flat. The difference is that by running the Y up the seam, we're hoping to push the LB a few steps further back and then run the cross underneath him. Ideally this would do 2 things 1) Make it a pretty easy read to the flat 2)Make that linebacker a little bit hesitant to get so deep in his drop, which ought to create a bigger window for 4 verts, which is what we WANT to throw. So, it's nto quite Dagger, it's not quite Drive. What would you call that? [/QUOTE]
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